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B-R-E-N-D-A P-E-A-R-T.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=3.0,13.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAnd what do you call home?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=13.0,15.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nCharleston. I'm British born of Jamaican heritage. I am considered to be a Windrush wash-belly. U.S. in '68 when I was three but by seven I was in Jamaica going to school. And I stayed there till just before 14, then came back to school in New York. But Charleston's home. I moved here for the weather. Other than traveling out of the country to different spaces and places, this is my physical home. I have an ancestral home, that is Jamaica. I have not yet made it to the Motherland, but there's enough to keep me occupied for a good, long time. My flow is connecting the dots across the diaspora and between what I learned from being in a Gullah Geechee nation and who I've sat here and met. Because the world comes here. It allows me to go out in space and place at times just match up things based on rhythm or the manipulation of the food. So... but I get to do it. And Charleston's home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=15.0,81.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAnd we are the lucky ones because you have adopted us for all those reasons.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=81.0,85.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nYep, oh, it ain't like that. Osei said if I didn't have cameras, y'all would've ran me out of town a long time ago. So yeah, sometimes you have to keep your mouth shut here in order to learn what's going on and figure out what's going on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=85.0,102.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWe'll get to that in just a second for sure. And so, that leads right into how do you do it? Do you have a title that you use? Are you employed anywhere? How do you define or describe what you're doing now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=102.0,116.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nThey put me out to pasture on work related disability. And I needed the weather. I have bilateral nerve damage, fingertips to the neck, so I'm no use to anybody's office anymore. But when I moved here, I could pick up cameras again. It literally started again here, it started with an old Samsung that I don't know how come I didn't know I could've changed the battery all the time, but I learned eventually. But running around here with a Samsung 4 and an extension cord. In and out of churches, I don't know why people let me do it. But there were things happening here that weren't happening anywhere else in America. If you Googled it, it wasn't happening anywhere else. It was just germane to the Lowcountry. And that fascinated me. And I had been... let's see, one lives real life, one goes through pain, one finds how to self-medicate, one goes through social ills and back and forward again. I was at Crisis Ministries, that was my first stop here. But that's where I learned Charleston. The Clemente Course, Tuesdays and Thursday nights, that's how I learned Charleston people. And the fact that it's point two five degrees of separation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=116.0,198.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nThere, through then, that's when we can use the little phone and go about places and they send you to churches way out on Goose Creek and... what's that sound? And people moot. Wait, there's no drums here but things that could be a drum were being utilized in that syncopation they had and that rhythm. But that woke up stuff from back in Jamaica, so I'm like \"Okay, we really got to go into those churches. We have to see what's going on\". That was my move around Charleston. And then Queen Atterberry was in town...here we now have drums and dance classes. But because we had drums, there are spaces and places that decided they needed the drums there. And usually it had to do with some social activity, some cultural function, that's how I found my way around Charleston.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=198.0,249.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAnd you found yourself being the chronicler? The photographer? What?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=249.0,257.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nYeah, it went from that oh, I had to convince her, \"Listen I need a real camera, this phone isn't going to do it\". Because at that time of seeing that there were a number of organizations or community functions that had history here but did not have documentation. And even if it was as simple as a Facebook page, a YouTube channel, Instagram wasn't out yet. But you had to let people know that you existed. So here was the outpouring. After you've gone through one or two or three occasions, there's no need for them to be on my Facebook profile. Here's your own page. Because the key thing is, I wasn't going to do this for you forever. I now have— there’s 32 Facebook pages of all sorts of various entities that are my works. They don't have my name on them, because there's no need. But in order for just to have the information out there, there are 11 YouTube channels, just to have the information out there. Or certain elders that some folks sort of don't look at and pay attention, but they still rocking on social media because they gave me access.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=257.0,325.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nThe elders here are amazing. They just, Isit at knees and listen. They don't always have cameras on them, but they're out there doing their thing and Ann Caldwell or Oscar Rivers, I get to be there. I've had access to backstage in many places and front stage in many places because some of them have more public profiles, and I get to work on... the public may see the final result. They don't know I typeset that or I was the nitty gritty or I was in the meetings that got you to that point. Otherwise you just—don't see me, you see me on the day of. But you had no idea that I had the privilege of being able to put together some major functions here in Charleston.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=325.0,372.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAnd we're going to talk about those. But I'm going to make you go back just a little bit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=372.0,377.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nWhat, the label thing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=377.0,380.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nNo, no, because you talk about the connection between being, what? British born, Jamaica, then New York, then Charleston, and everything. Help us understand the circumstances that made all of that come about? Just give us a little bit about the family dynamic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=380.0,406.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nAh, oh I'm last born. I'm seventh. The nearest one to me is seven years older. The first three were born in Jamaica, the next three were born in London, that's within the nuclear marriage. My mother had a son before that. That's what makes me number seven. By the time it kicked in, in the mid '60s, everyone else was born in the '50s, okay, let’s try another country. Because they were in England at the time. My mother and I came in October of '68. I had no idea, it was conversations my sister was having the other day, she said \"Yes, we talked to mommy on the phone and she talk about the riots that they were having out in the streets\". So even at three years old I was in the midst of civil unrest in New York. You don't get to know these things. But alas, Harlem was doing its thing at that time, New York was doing it thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=406.0,461.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nThey sent me to school in Jamaica, said because I was fat, I need to lose weight. There's whole bunch of other stuff going on. But it was the best thing ever. I'm a menopause baby, everyone else by the time they came to America were middle school or high school. This, we're talking... initially landed in Harlem but by '71 we were in Bushwick in the height of bussing. My brother had to go to school just two and a half blocks away, they needed to take me five blocks up and two blocks over to catch a bus. That didn't always work. And then I'm bussed an hour across Brooklyn. There were—I recall incidences when my brother would be home for the military, he had to come across and get me, or my brother who was supposed to drop me at the bus did not. Whatever it is, connection wasn't made. My mother's coming off of night shift, she's coming home to sleep. She comes home to find a child in between two doors. Her whole day has now changed. Either way, the best decision was made for me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=461.0,530.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nI went to Jamaica, I initially was maternal grandmother, we don't know what happened there. We know that during the Easter break, I was sent to Spanish Town. There were always dynamics in many people's families, who didn't marry, who didn't do what, okay, I guess at times you can get to trickle down to the children. But I was sent off to Spanish Town and spent the next glorious five years with elders, I'm Pisces, he was Scorpio, he could understand me. The wife was Taurus, she could understand me. And there was really no other children in the house until another one came, so \"Oh your people have to pay for you to be here\". As my mother says, I'm her most expensive child. But I went through the dynamics of Jamaican education in various schools. But I have the opportunity to be part of, let's see, these elders were part of the fabric of society. Their children were doctors and professors and whatever, they were major contributors to the church, they had their own pew. I knew what standing I had in the community. I was the daughter of granddaughter of niece of Ray Ray Ray. They got older, I went off to boarding school, but that was the last year they were boarding, and went back in New York.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=530.0,615.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nBecause of age wise, what do we do with you? And it's a short term and the cost of boarding school in America's not the cost of boarding school in Jamaica. Okay, you got to go to that junior high school down the street and you have- MILLICENT BROWN\n\nPublic school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=615.0,628.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nPublic school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=628.0,628.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nPublic school. BRENDA PEART\n\nYes. But you come across teachers who recognize that you're bored. Bored. I've been through all this work before. But because of my age, you have to have me here. Okay, Hunter College, oh you bringing up some memories. Hunter College gifted youth program, journalism and improvisational theater on weekends. And that went on for a couple of years. Doctor Milton Polsky out of NYU. We were traveling doing improv, WBAI Radio on Brooklyn College Saturday mornings, journalism workshops. That led to eventually Midwood High School medical science institute. At the time it wasn't part of what we call now the crown four, it now is. We knew we existed and we had our little medical science institute because we were right beside Brooklyn Collage, but now darling yes, Brooklyn Tech, Stuyvesant, Bronx Science and Midwood High School. Yeah, we-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=628.0,695.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWhy are you so proud of that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=695.0,696.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nOne, because we were shipped across... when I got shipped to Flatbush, Midwood High School's on the edge of Flatbush, the heart of a pulsing Caribbean and West Indian community. And at the same time, the perimeter of every form of Jewish heritage that there were. There were a lot of lessons. Haviva Kushner, who's the only girl I saw have bat mitzvah, who went on to become a rabbi. You know, I went to school with amazing people. They've got alphabets behind their name, I'm the only one who does not have any. It happens. But I still made it into the halls of academia. What can I say? But it's life moving around, typing hundred and some odd words a minute, doing telex operating.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=696.0,750.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nI went to the University of Iowa, but I didn't know the financial aid game. A key thing in there is that my father naturalized three months before I graduated high school, but no one told me. The attorneys that they dealt with did not have them sign or check the box below the signature line, which would've allowed me to have my derivative citizenship at that time, therefore attending university, college or whatever, seeking higher education in the United States as a citizen. My mother based on her knowledge that she knew and what she'd gone through with my brother said, \"Eliminate work study\". You eliminate work study as a house of cards, everything comes falling apart. I spent about three weeks at University of Iowa, but some Kappa Brothers sweetheart for life, said listen, \"You're going back to school, this is what you're going to do\". Temple had been a school, if I died today I could get in there tomorrow. That's where I went.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=750.0,809.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nFrom the week after I got there I was on the yearbook, if there was nothing else I could do I could take pictures. I had my first darkroom at 14, that's what Midwood High School gave me. I shot, I still shoot today as I shot then. Visual attendance, I'm not there for one, I'm there for all. That led to an amazing amount of work. This is at the time when Bill Cosby is coming, Maya Angelou was coming through, and Cindy Lauper's coming through. Do I have any of that? No. 30 years of contact sheets, proofs, all that, it's in a landfill somewhere. There in someone's memories. As we fast forward through growing up, having children, de Ghevains, your brain goes nuts when you can't work and you come from a seamstress and a baker, carpenter, and a mason. The hands were gone. Surgery on the left, it does its thing. If I get too tired, this is gone within 15 minutes. So you're there and you have a social security cheque.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=809.0,880.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nBut I'm running a computer recycling program. Because I can teach people how to use it. I can't use it, I'm going to teach people how to use it. World Trade Center was one of my best buildings going in and out of because I save these companies money. And I'm also teaching people actual skills as to not only to rebuild this thing but load in the software. We created techs. I still have quote unquote “neighborhood pharmaceutical entrepreneurs” who traveled the world as computer techs. You're able to tell people, pay attention to them little extra courses that they give on your job. You went from administrative assistant to having A plus certification because now you have the knowledge. I skipped over Hartford, but it all started in Hartford.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=880.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWhen is it that you get to Charleston? At least with, for some kind of [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=930.0,934.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=934.0,935.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\n2010, after I got the gift. The gift was a culmination of some... we'll call it what it was, it was an addiction, 14 years of smoking crack. During that time, I had none of my equipment around me. I was around people that I could not have my equipment around me. But we're still doing the computer recycling program, we're still... there are no psych services after 7:00 PM and before 7:00 AM. Because I'm killing pain and not physical thoughts, my mental is still clear to deal with those who come in. And people would show up all... even if you showed up with an eight ball, you weren't smoking it. You took one toke because you really came to talk. You wanted somebody to listen, and that was the purpose. But at the same time, I can't save all y'all and... what about me?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=935.0,993.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nSo what about you? What do you do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=993.0,994.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nYeah, this was a last straw. I went and hid out. Fortunately they said I had the right medical coverage. We had a polar vortex in New York that winter. That same weekend, I ran from Brooklyn, went up to Columbia Presbyterian. I didn't know social services. Like I said, no psych services, no social services, nights and weekends. So I got the heck out of Dodge because I need to live. Went up there and said \"Well, can't give you an emergency room and we know you can't go back, we tried the sheltered system, but you can’t tell the shelter system the truth, because they would leave you to die\". But they figured out, medical personnel there figured out, \"Look at your coverage, we can go hide you in a psych hospital, go ahead and sign yourself in. You got 90 days coverage on your Medicare. Go take as long as you need to\". I went there for 10. The only reason I really came back out that quickly because a person who cut me was out there cutting other people, still wasn't unattached yet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=994.0,1056.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nBut there was a time when here in Charleston... I'm still shifting around. I need to get out of here. That same person had gone on and got incarcerated when in Charleston, South Carolina and sent me paperwork. My thing is I figured Charleston is safe because I looked at the map, where they said the jail was way out there. Because it wasn't at Leeds Avenue, but it was out there in the country somewhere. So downtown Charleston, I had visited. I have these trees but they don't have any coconuts. It feels like Jamaica and you had lizards. And you had salt water. Because I wasn't getting into the shelters in New York. Once they label you, they label you. There had been a set up for me to go into the system in D.C., but I got issues with that. If I got to tell a lie, we going to have a problem, because cameras like to be in front of my face sooner or later. I always end up with cameras in front of my face. So it's best to go in with the truth at all times and you’re good. So, Charleston it was. BRENDA PEART\n\nI was one of the last ones to get into Crisis Ministries that week, because nobody got in for another two months. And that was the start. First weekend of June, 2010.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1056.0,1121.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nI was one of the last ones to get into Crisis Ministries that week, because nobody got in for another two months. And that was the start. First weekend of June, 2010.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1121.0,1121.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nI was one of the last ones to get into Crisis Ministries that week, because nobody got in for another two months. And that was the start. First weekend of June, 2010. MILLICENT BROWN\n\n2010.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1121.0,1133.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nAnd they're still here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1133.0,1135.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAnd... help us understand again, for the purposes of our project, what is happening in Charleston? I mean, you made this connection I think spiritually and emotionally and culturally with it because of your background. What are you observing politically? What is the mood of the city at that time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1135.0,1164.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nThey say if you want to see the light in any city, you got to go to the darkest place. I'm in the shelter. It is fascinating to me some of the mindsets, we are in a city where there's cruise ship. That's a cruise ship right there. Hold up, are y'all still hanging around here all day long? No, they're people who pay thousands of dollars to come to this city and sleep each night, we literally get to sleep here to get our heads in order, to get our space correct what we need to do. Why are you not out here exploring? So, I went walking the city. It's the Clemente Course though that let me know the vibe of the city, because now I'm around either people who are working or who are students or who are vets or who are retired, but who are in the mainstream fabric of the city. Initially my thing was... and you know what? There was no... I was trying to find a flavor. I'm coming out of Brooklyn. I heard Spanish every day. We may have had one or two Asians. I got a bunch of West Indians and Caribbean people. I got some Polish people on the other side and Baltics, but I'm... it was weird to me, no this is America. It was just Black and white.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1164.0,1251.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AND IT WAS VERY DIFFERENT.\n\nTook a while. But as you learned about certain things, my sanitation engineer. I did not get to go to Middle Passage Remembrance, I literally came in a week before Middle Passage Remembrance in 2010. So I didn't even hear about it, wasn't on my radar. It was as we went through the year, because by what, Sept, Oct-, I’m out of there. But it was in that course that I met Queen. Like I said, you had your drums. Now people need to drum some more revolution. So as you going through the year, it's still a measure of... and I didn't understand it, I didn't understand when they were talking about workforce housing, I didn't understand when they were saying the Gullah Geechee, she didn't interview well. Because I'm coming across people who have a lot of degrees, I'm like \"What are you talking about?\". There seems to be a lot of commerce here. You’ve got hotels, you've got tourism, people have to be working somewhere. And then that's at the height when they're saying some 40 some odd people a day were moving to the region.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1251.0,1321.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AND IT WAS VERY DIFFERENT.\n\nI'm here on the peninsula. I don't drive. So I have this microcosmic view of what Charleston is. I was not feeling or knowing of the angst of those who, it's later on you find out, that used to be my\n\ngrandmother’s house or that used to be my uncle's house. Or how the connectors got run through neighborhoods. Because then you got to start walking some more, because you live here. I left the shelter but I didn't go too far, I didn't go any further than Meeting and Huger. So I had a beach house in Charleston, South Carolina. You couldn’t tell me nothing. They don't exist anymore, it's a parking lot now. But I had one of those little one units where everybody keeps rushing towards tiny houses? I lived in there. I technically still live in such an establishment, it does not do good for the mental. But that's why you get out and you have cameras and you go places. But in listening, it was anger. A lot of anger. Of people feeling displaced and not being able to participate in many things. I'm not understanding why because it's right there, it's around in these times that you start to maybe feel some of the angst yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1321.0,1404.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AND IT WAS VERY DIFFERENT.\n\nAnd which is why Osei’s like, “Yeah, you just keep your cameras. You want to stay here? Keep using your cameras, because your mouth.” as a Jamaican song goes, like, \"Your mouth will run you in a problem\". So-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1404.0,1419.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWhen you refer to Osei, you mean Osei Chandler?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1419.0,1421.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nOsei Chandler, yeah. MILLICENT BROWN\n\nRight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1421.0,1422.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nRight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1422.0,1422.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nRight. BRENDA PEART\n\nYeah, \"Your mouth will run you in a problem\" so because you're now speaking on things that no, there's a whole nother feeling of it. Not knowing... I guess I saw it when, oh I can't remember the name of the church [St. Matthew Baptist Church]. But it's the church that was across the street at Meeting and Huger, the last one sitting there, the connector's already in, but you'd found out that they'd been bought out the church so they could do the connector. If you bought out the church so they can do the connector, how come you about to put this high rise building right there? The church couldn't have stayed? With the-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1422.0,1456.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAre you talking about Saint Matthew's?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1456.0,1459.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nI don't know if it was Saint Matthew’s, it was right on Huger Street. It's on this side of Meeting, Meeting going towards King. And that was actually, it's one of my very first YouTube videos. Because I watched them knock it down. Now I'd been living there a couple years, I know no one had been going to the church, but at the same time, it at least was something. And then it turns into this humongous building, and I'm like \"Where are these people going?\". But I've been here long enough to know that, heck, on Saturday mornings we used to go sit over there by Spring Street where that last bus stop was, because it was an empty lot. And you weren't doing other things but you figure you're still being slick and you've been in the shelter all week and I'd have a Colt 45 that morning, sitting right there, me and Niecy sitting right there and you looking over the lot and watch the goat go through it. When's the last time you see a goat walking around on peninsula. Charleston? He's got no place to roam.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1459.0,1525.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nBut it's these things, I've seen all these buildings and spaces and places go up. And people were getting angrier and angrier that there was no place for them to live.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1525.0,1536.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nLet's talk about that. Who are the people that you then meet that are responding to that angst? This whole gentrification process?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1536.0,1545.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nYeah, because I ended up going, because when they told me I had three weeks to move, and I didn’t understand why. I was up for recert, okay I'm coming back in my nice little... I call it house with beach house, because it's got sand there, we're in Charleston. And they said \"No, we're not going to recert you but you have to move in three weeks and you have these two choices\". One of them didn't fall within the budget, I'm on Social Security disability, you want me to pay, at the time I was getting like $800, you want 675 rent out of 800? No, that's not going to work. That's how I ended up in front of City Council.\n\nThat was the first time I went to speak in front of them. And it's interesting enough, the hotel project that is currently on their itinerary, or conversation. right now was the same thing that we spoke about some 12 years ago. Because that's one of the reasons that everything was shifting. But you build these quote unquote “tiny houses”, they win the architectural awards to stave off or end homelessness, but they're not made to last. And they disappear into the air. Mine was one of the only ones that you could still physically open the door; the other ones, you open the door, the whole frame is falling off.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1545.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nBut again, there's a private side to housing and there's a gentlemen by the name of William Enston who wanted to recreate a part of England for his dear wife. And at the time when they were putting poor people in jail for pauper’s prison, he created the Enston Home to make old age comfortable. I have been here long enough and lived there long enough to have people such as George Kenny take me there and says, \"You know I've never been on this property?\". Or others who say, \"We never used to go over there when we was young, that was white folks place\". Or others who say, \"Well my aunt work for a man back in such and such\". So I consider it to be a privilege to actually live there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1620.0,1662.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAnd Enston Home still exists?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1662.0,1665.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nYes, Enston Homes. And it is also the site of the Green Heart Urban Farm Project, so, right, my backyard is an urban farm. But I consider it a privilege to live there and they don't mind when I disappear and I'm\n\ngone because they never know what story I'm coming back with. Or they never know what I've been involved in again. But that location allows me to see, feel and know Charleston. It's two and a half miles to the Battery and back, that means I can get to anywhere. And that's by foot power.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1665.0,1695.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nLet me ask you to just kind of tie it together for us a little bit, because we do want to know about not only your energies, but who are the people that you are affiliating with? About this anger. You know, you talk about going to City Council.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1695.0,1717.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nI went to City Council meetings but as you're meeting folks, and a lot of them, this was through the dance classes that was coming from Queen Atterberry, so that was another part of socialization. It has guaranteed at least every Saturday morning the drums were playing on the peninsula. I have an issue about the drums not being heard. But we're trying to make sure that we can re-establish some measures as happens in Charleston area, some people are not here for the long haul. They here for a while, opportunity comes and then they go other spaces and places. There were a lot of people coming to dance class, so you get to hear about what they're doing. Or at the same time, folks who... their children, because we had a Saturday school program, so you hear where they're coming from to go to Charleston Development Academy. Or where they're coming from to go to Meeting Street Academy. Or where they're coming from to go to Buist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1717.0,1771.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nI live across from James Simmons and I watched its renovation as it went to Montessori and the building expanded. I live down the street from Math and Science. I had been in and out of the kitchen at Burke, being affiliated with chef BJ Dennis. So you get to hear all these different major things. At the same time, Charleston loves a parade. The parades get you to meet and greet people, and again, you're taking visual attendance, and you have Facebook pages such as Humans of Charleston, Low Country Rhythms, these are places where these pictures have an audience. And you end up meeting and talking to people because you've done put their pictures and video out there. So it all expands. They all fold into each other. In the midst of this, again, elders. Mary Edwards. Edwards, from my Clemente Course times, when they needed people to work the phones for... I think it was the 2011 campaign, I worked the phones, city councilman had never met me then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1771.0,1843.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nFast forward, I go speak to them about this housing issue. This is when I find out that Joseph P. Riley is unbelievably astute about every single piece of property in the City of Charleston. I didn't know he was a real estate man. But he broke it down as to where I lived and I'm like \"Okay\". This is interesting. But again, people were still upset. There were... always watching people move out. There was always someone leaving, even if they had family measures. “Well, so and so sold the house,” or \"Oh we have to move off\", or \"Yeah, well we have family on James Island but see, we live up in North Charleston because we can't live on the peninsula\". And I wasn't understanding it, but I was looking at the fact that I'm privileged to be here and I'm holding on to this sucker for as long as I can. Because, one, I don't drive. I've learned very early on when I moved here, that July morning trying to go get a laptop part and I\n\nhad to go all the way up on the top of North Charleston, and the 100 degree sun is coming, I’m like, no, get me back downtown.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1843.0,1916.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nSo it was important by then that I knew other folks that were coming from different places, but the downtown folks, peninsula people, that's how I can move around. Those stories I was hearing. I don't necessarily go to events off the... if I go off the peninsula, somebody came to get me. That's bottom line. So if it was happening here, that's why I could go to a march, because it was happening here. And social media was moving around. It wasn't like you got a phone call about something, it was social media moving, we need to be here and you show up at a meeting and that's how things started.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1916.0,1958.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nDo you remember when Walter Scott was killed?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1958.0,1962.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nThat kicked off the first night march I think we did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1962.0,1968.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nOkay, who's we?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1968.0,1970.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nThat was…that December 2014, right? Yeah. That's Christopher Carson, so Papa Smurf, pardon me, Papa Smurf, Pastor Dixon... Muhiyidin wasn't around at the time. See this is hard, this is why I told them it would be extremely hard at times.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1970.0,1988.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nYou’re doing fine, don't worry ‘bout it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1988.0,1990.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nBecause I literally had to go through everything last night to try and refresh the [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1990.0,1996.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"], and you're talking being at the night march, going through the city, ooh, we went through the city... and because I am who I am and the part of the revolution of social media and social justice was to go live. So I'm using Bamboozle to go live. And still shooting with a camera, you see it's like I said, the body, the body GoPros. I didn't have Go Pros there, things weren't strapped on then. So it's Bamboozle with a\n\nphone to stay live, that's on a tripod being held somewhere, and I'm still shooting video with a camera, or at least taking stills, I'd alternate. And we're going through the streets of Charleston in the dead of night. But we made the major decision that we would come in through the hood, because people always leave out the hood. So coming up through in that place and folks were coming on their porches and they were giving their support and rallied back round to Piggly Wiggly. We couldn't try that again. Yeah, they never did let us too close to Piggly Wiggly to assemble or leave off after that again. It didn't-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=1996.0,2069.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nHow did they stop you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2069.0,2071.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nThere were now rules and ordinances about gathering and loitering, all that other stuff. But by that time, it was only within a few days because folks realized Charleston folks aren't playing. There are a lot of folks who showed up that night. That's when the organizational meetings started, because within a couple of days we're at ILA for a big meeting with a great mixture of people. That's where Muhiyidin and Brandon Fish and whoever, they'd started to make their public measures and...diagrams, from here to thy kingdom come. On some of the folks who are a little older, all that constant talk was driving us nuts. We needed to know where we...just let us know where we need to be, what you want us to do. Are there flyers that need to be executed? Are there? Do we have word of mouth? Do we have radio? Are we working media? What are we doing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2071.0,2130.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nBut you know we got babies who are highly educated, who they then learn how to do these things a certain way, so we got to give them their breath and let them do what they do. Within a couple of days, see I needed my timeline, I can't help it. Because it went hot and fast. It went hot and fast. The first march was the 6th, the 10th we have that organizational meeting. We're back on the streets again for...a drumming? Yeah. No, a day march. We met at Hampstead Park. That one. That was really, really an amazing time. Because... folks could breathe after what we were all going through and watch the rest of the world go crazy. But we knew that we were at least doing something here in Charleston. That was the thing. We had to do something. So we got our drumming, we got our people assembled, we geared up. I don't think we knew that we were going to pick up that many people along the way. I don't know the numbers; I do know that the picture from that one, one of the pictures from that one, ended up being on the cover of The Chronicle.\n\n\n\nMillicent Brown (","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2130.0,2204.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"): The Black newspaper?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2204.0,2205.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nYeah, the Black newspaper. And it's like okay...but also at the same time, the pictures were now being used in a way that I didn't want them to be used. I know that law enforcement was now using them to track some folks. That's it. Because I'm the only one that had a full comprehensive viewing of what was going on. So I started pulling them. I would just, I'd make my albums disappear. It did not make sense. If you going to do it, go through the grainy video from the live stuff. Because the live was never looking that grand. The sound was there, but it would look, yeah, y'all going to figure it out from that way, but you're not going to use my stuff to get these people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2205.0,2245.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nDo you know of specific instances where that happened? Where people were being identified by the police?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2245.0,2254.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nI didn't. There was talk, but by that time...time we got to another meeting, that's when I would only now document public events. No longer documenting meetings. And see, they weren't understanding the importance of the documenting of the meetings, because there was some breadcrumbs that everybody did not have. Everyone came in with their own specialties. Muhiyidin brought something to the area that others did not have. And it worked and then it didn't work, because for the camera aesthetic, Muhiyidin worked. What most did not understand, Brandon Fish is a driving force behind Black Lives Matter Charleston. As violence in... when... all right. See, they all turn into one for me. Mike Brown, Walter Scott, Ferguson, they all turned into one because the things that happened in Charleston with certain organizations came to town and pushed other people aside. Like, you can't come to Charleston and then, but then, Charleston people accepted it. But by that time, I'm in the midst of a City Council campaign. Not at meetings anyway because tell me what you doing that I need to be out there. Because if my cameras can't be in function, what's the use of me being here? Because you're going over this rhetoric and rhetoric and I'm old. I just want to know where we got to march.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2254.0,2356.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nAh, rest in peace, Tamara McCutcheon. Tamara was passing through town working on her JD and she just passed away just a couple of weeks ago. We're doing stop the violence at customs house. Kimpson's out there, Tamara's out there, Muhiyidin, Papa Smurf, Papa Smurf's daughter. Again, these numbers. I don't know where these young people are coming from but they now coming in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2356.0,2384.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWho else is out there? Is National Action Network out there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2384.0,2390.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nThey, they came-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2390.0,2391.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nNAACP?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2391.0,2392.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nSee, they came in the midst of it, it was always some issues. There was some issues because, like I said, Brandon's at the helm. Muhiyidin was, he came in for his specific piece, he was not the helm of Black Lives Matter Charleston. He's an afterthought, he was not there. I mean, I looked, I don’t remember, I didn't see him that night. So I'm looking at the pictures. That's what I said, I haven't really looked at my stuff. I shoot it, put it in the can. Because after a while it got to be a lot. It got to be...it’s more than just the Samsung... now I've got these couple of Nikons and one's going to shoot video, one's going to take pictures, and oh I still have the phone, because I've got to do phone for social media stuff. So that's why I can end up having nearly 300 gigabytes of coverage. Because it's event after event after event. And even if my mouth is shut, I've got this coverage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2392.0,2455.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nDo you mind telling us, if you had to choose, a particularly impressive event, or something that will rest in your memory of that time, that you covered?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2455.0,2473.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nFor Black Lives Matter before Emanuel Nine?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2473.0,2476.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nOh, I'll let you decide. Just tell us something that was. or a couple that were, particularly important to\n\nyou that that you’re saying, I am so glad I covered, I captured?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2476.0,2492.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nActually I'm not going to lie, it has to be pretty much... let's see. Because the game changed. The game changed. As we got into the top of January 2015, the game changed because I'm working the mayoral campaign. So I'm only coming out for some larger things. But there's always, I had initially set up the\n\nFacebook page, the YouTube channel, this, that and the other. But because, like I said, it was like it got to, I wouldn't say it was an age barrier thing, but it was something like that-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2492.0,2528.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nYou can say that, you can say that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2528.0,2529.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nHere, here, here's all the stuff, here's the passwords, I wasn't even getting emails anymore, nothing. I just knew, long as you have a public function, if I can make it, that's where I'll be. Because I don't go where I'm not needed or where I don't see a need. There was now enough public attention and media was paying attention, you didn't need me. But I knew enough or old enough that this foundation stuff history, yeah, you going to need this. In the midst of it, like I said, I was now working on the mayoral campaign. The- MILLICENT BROWN\n\nFor Mayor-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2529.0,2565.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nFor Mayor-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2565.0,2565.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nFor Mayor- BRENDA PEART\n\nFor Mr. Gregorie, William Dudley Gregorie. MILLICENT BROWN\n\nOkay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2565.0,2568.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nOkay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2568.0,2568.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nOkay. BRENDA PEART\n\nI would have to say, and I'm not going to pick the obvious, I'll pick the one in between. The Tuesday when everyone went to Columbia. I was here in Charleston. I took the walk, very early that morning. I know the silence and the stillness of death on Calhoun Street with the pungent smell of all of those flowers and candles. Because everybody had taken off to Columbia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2568.0,2605.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nTo bring down the flag?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2605.0,2607.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nThe flag came down. But in between there, gosh, some folks, only those who were there that morning knew. We'd been in Hampton Park that morning before we went to Morris Brown. I don't know how I got into the church at that particular time, but on page 89 of a subsequent issue of Essence Magazine, when they covered the prayers at Morris Brown and the community prayer at Morris Brown, you see me down in the corner of the picture like \"Okay\". Again, Charleston and ending up in spaces and places.\n\nWhat I did here I couldn't do it in New York. Just, one, based on the logistics of it. I could hear, when I hear the march coming up, I can hear them as you're coming up King Street. I got enough time to get a bra on and get out the door as you going past me. So I've seen the development in movement from when we were first out there with no permits as to how they've gone through measures of having to deal with police interaction. Like I tell them, one, I'm too old. Two, I live in housing, I don't do popo contact like that. I'm not losing my one little studio for the issue of social justice, we can't do that. I am more valuable to you as keyboard warrior at that time. Because you keep feeding what you feed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2607.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nBut I'd have to say, that Tuesday morning. I take it because it's the only quiet I had before everything else came down. Before Pinckney's funeral. Obama. Folks on that, well we were out there from 4:30, five o'clock that morning just to get into that funeral. But when you look, the majority of the coverage is from the back of TD Arena. I had been in there for the community prayer. I live here in Charleston. I got something that your press guys coming from out of town don't know. I know the vantage points in this city. I had already stuck myself up in the corner off to the... what's this? Stage left. No, it's stage left. Off to the left side of the stage during the community prayer. I knew what vantage point I was going to have for Pinckney's funeral. Took that same position and beelined right there for when Pinckney's funeral was being in session. Everyone else has the vantage point from that side, my vantage point is from the entire arena because I'm showing my people of Charleston. Who was on stage wasn't that important. It was showing my people of Charleston pouring out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2700.0,2779.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nLet me ask you, do you think, given all that you saw, all that you captured, do you feel today that all of those activities have made a difference for Charleston?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2779.0,2808.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nAll right. There it comes about two or threefold. Because I had the opportunity to organize... commemoration functions or be involved in any of the commemoration functions from 2015 all the way up until 20... well no, I did some for 2020 as well. The initial rally, Hate Won't Win, Shirley Caesar being\n\nhere, Dr. Bernice King being here. Those things take months to assemble. The campaign, the mayoral campaign stopped when the Nine got murdered and the five survivors had to be dealt with. I only had one focus and I had one focus for the next five, six years after that, and that was the Emanuel Nine. The consideration of the book, The 90 Seconds that Changed the World. When you look at Liz Alston and Willi Glee and Herb Fraser and Mr. Gregorie... somebody had to put the final assembly together so somebody'd get... even when it had to go off to print. But I'm also astute at keeping, I'm very astute at keeping my name out of things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2808.0,2885.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nIt's being able to assemble those things. The Finale Gospel Concerts, because those were for the family. I did those for four years. Because elders know what they want, but they need that translation in between. And I've been their translation in between. What Polly Sheppard and Jean Ortiz wanted, what Mr. Gregorie wanted. What do we want for these families? What do we want for the survivors? Even before that, Emanuel Way. Or being able to be there as they're working out the logistics of the text for the apology for slavery. I've had the opportunity. That's where I was when you didn't see me.\n\nSomebody's got to be in there in the nitty gritty with them, and that's where I was. They've made some measure of difference. But again, it was always a splintered thing as you look at the congregation of Emanuel, and at the time that a lot of them, even though some lived on the peninsula, a lot of them didn't live on the peninsula. And as death took away your connection to the space and place or how you felt in treatment of going, I, that, because I did not attend the church.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2885.0,2965.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nBut I have a different observation of some of the activities because I know what I may had to have dealt with church personnel as to coverage of events or just putting events together and how cities, heads may have had to butt. And some people at times have no idea how some city officials had to fight really hard to get some things done so that the memories are not forgotten. One thing that hurts a lot is the fact that there was an official blue check Mother Emanuel AME Church page that had everything.\n\nBecause the initial page was done by Sharonda Singleton, nobody bothered messing with the family or so, whoever the passwords, this, that and the other. But it was never a formalized page, it was just community stuff, and she kept putting it there. So Facebook deals with it another way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=2965.0,3032.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nBut Sharonda Singleton being one of the victims?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=3032.0,3036.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nOne of the victims. So we went and made, as we're beginning, as we’re going through this Emanuel Way, which we know happened... so what was it? By 2017. But in the midst of that, the plaques, the benches, the quilts, the art, all of those things that we don't necessarily get to put our eyes on today, whatever I could get access to, I have photographs and videos of. I poured my heart and love and soul into that Facebook page. It had all the pictures, it had all the videos, you could literally go through there and go through time from that event. And they changed pastors. Well they changed pastors a couple of\n\ntimes. And then you get one pastor who don't know a darn thing about nothing that went on, so he had to make sure that everything that had something to do with that disappeared. He tried his best to be a admin on the page, I kept blocking that sucker. Zuckerberg came to Charleston. It was that connection that he used, you managed to make a blue check page disappear overnight. Change the church logo and decide you want it to be something else. But that's also a place that's in strife, again, I said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=3036.0,3113.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nI don't attend a church. It's in constant strife. Lord give me enough time to live in Charleston, I'm going to outlive his tenure there at the church. And I guarantee you, that page will be right back up, because I have all the content.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=3113.0,3127.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nI was about to say, that's the important thing. You still are the owner of all-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=3127.0,3133.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nEvery bit of it. And that's where technology has helped me. There was no digital photography then, it was me going into a darkroom and then this, that and the other. If I did not have digital photography, I would not have been able to pull off all that I have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=3133.0,3148.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWe're going to have to wrap this up now Brenda.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=3148.0,3149.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nMm-hmm (affirmative).","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=3149.0,3151.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nBut let me just give you an opportunity to make a statement that I maintain is for people who you don't know, because you don't know who they will be and when they will listen to you. It might be 10, 20 years from now. But what is it that you would want to have on record? Be that words of caution, words of...import?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=3151.0,3177.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nThere's things that happen here that don't happen anywhere else in the world and stop sleeping on Charleston, South Carolina. That’s bottom line. You will have folks who they have this prejudiced view of what they’ve heard from others about the South is about, what the South can be, and who the people of the South can appear to be and how they treat you. I've gone up and back and forth through the Sea Islands and the Lowcountry and that's all because of folks in the Gullah Geechee nation. The Gullah Geechee nation has allowed me to explore and look at connecting the dots across the diaspora. I have met many from the continent of Africa that have state delegations, who came in after when I heard about Liz Alston's death, like, ah. I have her stuff because folks that were not there privy to the African delegation that came into speak with her about the history of the church, many don't know that Muhiyidin spoke with them the day before. I've got all that blooming covered. This place gives you opportunity, whether it is in with some of the saddest things that happen in our world, but it lets you know that the world affects here, but that Charleston also effects change across the world. One little blip and it ripples out so much across this world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=3177.0,3260.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966/transcript/87845/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BRENDA PEART\n\nBecause again, parts of history. Great migrations happen from here. The first of a lot all came from the Lowcountry. They lead their roots back here. And it's an amazing, amazing place. Just stop sleeping on it. Stop taking for granted the fact that just because nobody talk like you doesn't mean that they don't have three, four, five degrees. Language does not dictate intelligence. That's one of the main things.\n\nThat's what I keep saying, \"What do you mean they don't interview properly?\". Language does not dictate intelligence. I come from a people who speak patois. It is a love language, that's why I can enjoy the Gullah Geechee nation. Because dem nuh let go how dem talk and the way them talk and the way them move in order to express themselves. Like I said, things that happen here don't happen anywhere else in the world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164249/file/298966#t=3260.0,3335.0"}]}]}]}