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While at the Institute, she worked on many transnational projects dedicated to war resolution and community diplomacy in high-conflict areas, including the former Yugoslavia and Kaliningrad oblast. 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This is Emily Whalen. It's March 15th, 2023, and I'm recording an oral history interview for the EastWest Institute Oral History Project. Please start by introducing yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=1.0,13.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SASHA HAVLICEK\n\nHi, Emily. My name is Sasha Havlicek and I now run the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, which does work to protect democracy from the rising threats of disinformation, weaponized hate, and extremism of all forms. We combine advanced research, digital research, online research with policy advisory work with a range of governments and with the delivery of communications, and education, and capacity building program around the world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=13.0,49.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EMILY WHALEN\n\nAmazing. What was your role at the EastWest Institute?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=49.0,53.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SASHA HAVLICEK\n\nI came into the EastWest Institute when I was pretty young. I had the wonderful opportunity of building out the work in the Balkans, which was really the first foray of the institute into conflict resolution work in the region after the Balkan Wars, the Yugoslav catastrophe. I was senior director for Trans Frontier Corporation, which was establishing cross border linkages, political, economic, civic linkages in some of the most hard hit parts of the region in terms of the conflict there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=53.0,100.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EMILY WHALEN\n\nHow did you first hear about the EastWest Institute?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=100.0,105.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SASHA HAVLICEK\n\nI heard about the EastWest Institute, how? It was one of the known organizations in the Eastern European transition space, and it was an area that I knew quite well. I was really, really keen to work in on those issues. I'd done studies in related areas that I was really excited at the thought of having an opportunity to work at the institute. They'd be very front footed on relations with, well, Soviet Union in Russia, and then, of course, East Europe, and then done quite interesting work on Eastern European transition. I was really excited to have an opportunity to come and interview with them. I remember coming to meet with various people in Prague at the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=105.0,161.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EMILY WHALEN\n\nWere you already living in Prague?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=161.0,163.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SASHA HAVLICEK\n\nNo, I was living in Brussels. I had just finished doing work at the European Commission and was doing, again, my first major job in Brussels after interning at the European Commission. I applied to work with the EastWest Institute and had an opportunity. Oh, gosh. I mean, I interviewed with a lot of different people, I remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=163.0,193.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EMILY WHALEN\n\nWonderful. Who did you work with most closely when you were at EWI?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=193.0,201.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SASHA HAVLICEK\n\nI worked with many people. I mean, I worked very closely with, I suppose, with Vazil Hudak, who led the Prague Center at the time. I had the great privilege of working pretty closely, actually, with a number of people on the board. With George Russell, who was a great mentor. With Stephen Heintz, who had, of course, run the operation in Prague but then had left and joined the board and was a wonderful leader of the organization. With Mark... Oh my goodness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=201.0,235.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EMILY WHALEN\n\nMaletz.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=235.0,237.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SASHA HAVLICEK\n\nYes, Maletz, who was absolutely brilliant. Again, another real mentor on the board. There were a number of people. With Francis Finlay, who was a wonderful member of the board, and of course, Martti Ahtisaari. Oh, just the most wonderful person in the world. Martti Ahtisaari, who was a huge inspiration to me and to all of us. It was a very special board. I mean, there were many others actually on the board, too, that really need naming because they were also fantastic. Within the organization, I worked very closely with whole range of people. With Antje Herrberg who ran the Brussels Center. I ended up moving to Brussels and working out of the Brussels Center. I set up field operations across the Balkans and I oversaw the work that we did out of Kaliningrad and St. Petersburg on Trans Frontier Corporation. I had an amazing team. Over time, we built out one of the largest pots of funding for the work that I oversaw. I work very closely with people like... Oh my God. I mean, I'm having complete blank.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=237.0,310.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EMILY WHALEN\n\nIt's okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=310.0,311.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SASHA HAVLICEK\n\nI should've studied up on this before doing-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=311.0,314.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EMILY WHALEN\n\nThat's all right. No problem. Well, what I'd love to hear more about actually is you mentioned setting up field operations for Trans Frontier cooperation. Can you paint a little bit more of a picture of what those field operations look like, what actually you were doing in the field?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=314.0,332.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SASHA HAVLICEK\n\nSorry, I should mention people. When I first started at the Prague office, I was working also closely with people like Peter Pomerantsev. I forgot to mention Peter because he's still so much part of my professional life now. I work very closely with him now. Peter is a fantastic expert on Kremlin propaganda and disinformation. He runs a center out of Hopkins that deals with those issues, and we've collaborated for many years on that area of our work. He remains very much part of my professional life. Peter Pomerantsev, then Connor Grennan was also running some work with parliamentarians at the time in the Balkans, and he was a great colleague, really loved working with him. I mentioned Antje Herrberg, who was a great expert in conflict mediation and went on to do some fantastic work in the conflict mediation space. She was just incredible mentor and role model as well. She ran the Brussels office of EWI for some time. Those were all people that I worked with. Sorry. I just couldn't remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=332.0,407.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EMILY WHALEN\n\nOkay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=407.0,407.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SASHA HAVLICEK\n\nThis was a long time ago now. Gracious, quite good 20 years ago.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=407.0,413.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EMILY WHALEN\n\nYeah. Wonderful. Well. Yeah, if you could, would you mind just describing in a little bit more detail the field operations that you were undertaking to set up in the Balkans?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=413.0,422.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SASHA HAVLICEK\n\nYes. The work was inspired by some of the work that EWI had done in Eastern Europe, in the Carpathian or became known as the Carpathian Euroregion, which was essentially cross-border cooperation in bringing communities together across state borders that had often national minorities linked to a majority across the border that had been particularly challenging or destabilized for a variety of political reasons. That concept seemed pertinent to the really major challenges that we were facing in the Balkans in the aftermath of the war, where you had the establishment of new state borders after the breaking apart of Yugoslavia, and where you had often the most acute fighting, and often militia groups situated in those border regions. The idea was to start to reestablish. Yugoslavs had some of the biggest problems in terms of the flows of goods and the natural marketplaces that existed in those places being disrupted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=422.0,497.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You had particularly acute economic problems and social problems as a result of all of this. The idea was really to look at areas hardest hit by conflict in those border areas and start to reestablish contacts across the border through a functional approach and to see if there were glaring common interests that could be served through corporation that would then spill over into other areas of corporation. That was the principle behind it. We did that in some very, very tough parts of the Balkans and had some really genuinely extraordinary successes with that approach. The first institutional connection and communication across those borders since the war in a number of those contexts, bringing local authorities, the mayors together for the first time after the conflict. Sometimes community leaders, youth leaders, schools, teachers associations, parents associations for the first time since the end of the war, and rebuilding the relationships around common interests.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=497.0,570.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EMILY WHALEN\n\nWhat are you proudest of in your time at the EastWest Institute?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=570.0,578.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SASHA HAVLICEK\n\nI think it was a really innovative body of work that we were forging. I think it was an approach to conflict resolution that hadn't really been undertaken. It was a lot of work being done to engage central governments in conversation, but at the end of the day, the coalface of the problems were really in these local communities at the borders. We were doing things both bottom up and top down. We were engaging both in pushing and driving forward policy solutions to these types of border management challenges, including the massive uptake in illicit trading and activity across those newly established borders, engaging with some of the international institutions that were really responsible for rolling out the reintegration of the Balkans with Europe, and peace building in the region, the Stability Pact for Southeast Europe. I was excited because I'd managed to get a working group up and running under the auspices of the Stability Pact for Southeast Europe, which was the international institution dealing with peace in the region on the issue of cross-border corporation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=578.0,652.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I had a lot of support from a number of key figures. The chairman at the time of that, part of the Stability Pact work, and worked very closely with the participating governments of the Stability Pact, at both western governments and regional governments, to roll out an agenda, which was really about developing these cross-border local level ties between communities that had been ripped apart because of the war. It was an entire model that we were able to roll out because we had practical experience from the ground and some of that was working extremely well. We were able to evidence that in real ways and then influence the ways in which policies were developed to scale those approaches. That was very exciting. We had some real success for that. We were able to raise significant support for that work over multiple years. That was the other thing. We were able to sustain the work on a multiannual basis, which is the stuff of dreams for people trying to do conflict resolution work, where there's often a real shortage of longer range investment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=652.0,722.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We had wonderful partners in our donors at the time. The Swedish International Development Agency was particularly supportive of this work and we had great partners there that really believed in the work. Hannah Mott Foundation, the Charles Stewart Mott Foundation, they were very invested in this as well. It was delivering for the people on the ground. This was enormous. I spent a lot of my time in my families from the region. I spent a lot of my time going from place to place. We had these number of different regional offices from the south of Croatia working into [inaudible] and into Montenegro, working across the borders of southern Serbia, Kosovo, and Macedonia, and other parts of the region, again, that were really struggling in the post-war period. We created a model for how to do conflict resolution in an interest-based way that felt quite sustainable at the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=722.0,787.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EMILY WHALEN\n\nYou mentioned working on the Kaliningrad operations, it was the same conflict resolution work or was it something different?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=787.0,794.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SASHA HAVLICEK\n\nYes. I mean, it was based on the idea that, again, there are a number of parts of Eastern Europe that benefited from cross-border cooperation. Kaliningrad, obviously, is such an unbelievably unique case in that. Of course, we were looking at, at the time, the enlargement of the EU essentially resulting in Kaliningrad being an island of Russia in the midst of EU territory. We were looking ahead at what that would signify for this region and looking at ways in which to preemptively integrate this community with its neighborhood in a way that would be productive and not lead ultimately to tensions or conflict.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=794.0,843.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EMILY WHALEN\n\nWell, I'm mindful of the time. I want to ask a bigger picture question. What do you think, on an institutional level, what do you think the EastWest Institute's biggest contribution at the time was?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=843.0,858.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SASHA HAVLICEK\n\nI think there were a number of different periods, different phases of the institute's work. I think in the early period of the institute's work, I think this idea of establishing dialogue at different tracks was really, really fundamental to what the institute was able to do. EWI was really a very, very good track to track 1.5 dialogue organization. That kind of engagement is incredibly important. It is the kind of thing that sets up relationships and capacities so that when the time is right for change to happen, you have a card of people ready to move into transformational roles within society and within the governments of those countries. I think that those sorts of investments, we lack today, actually, in many contexts, we should be investing more in that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=858.0,919.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That was, I think, the great contribution of the institute to the space. It was experimental. It was risk taking, sometimes maybe too much, but it was very empowering for young people coming in with ideas that they wanted to pursue. There was a lot of freedom, actually, in developing your own programming and ideas and building out the funding that you needed to do that. There was a lot of freedom. In that sense, it was very, in a way, very idealistic and optimistic about solution finding and delivering solutions. That was really its strength, was that it empowered people to try things out to solve problems.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=919.0,967.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EMILY WHALEN\n\nDid your time at the institute impact your subsequent career?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=967.0,971.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SASHA HAVLICEK\n\nYeah, absolutely. I was very young when I joined the institute and it was an extremely empowering experience for me. I met the most wonderful group of people working there. It was very chaotic at the time, but at the same time, in that chaos, there was also a lot of freedom to innovate. I think that that, in a way, that was really its strength. I learned an enormous amount about what was possible, but also the things to avoid doing, how to organize things better. In some ways, I think it lacked, at times, some of the systems and management that would've helped it become more sustainable. But at the same time, it had such fantastic talented people coming in and out that I think it had an impact on an entire sector of work a lot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=971.0,1038.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I still have engagements with a lot of people that I worked with at EWI or that I've met through my work at EWI. I can see that they went off, all of them really, to do very interesting things in similar or adjacent areas of work. It's had a huge impact on my life. I felt very inspired and motivated with the work that I did there. I felt very dedicated and committed to it, and I felt I was supported to do that work by a lot of people who also felt very dedicated and committed to making change happen in very difficult circumstances. I thought that was wonderful. I think that many of these people went on to do really interesting things. I think it's inspired a couple of generations of people in this sector to go off and do stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=1038.0,1089.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EMILY WHALEN\n\nThat's wonderful. Well, that's a great place for us to wrap up. Thank you so much for your time and for your participation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=1089.0,1095.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SASHA HAVLICEK\n\nVery nice to talk. It's a very nice trip down memory lane, I have to say. I think of it with great fondness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=1095.0,1102.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508/transcript/42550/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EMILY WHALEN\n\nWonderful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/88956/file/184508#t=1102.0,1103.296"}]}]}]}