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Can you please state your full name, date of birth, and your place of birth?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=8.0,14.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nGreetings. My full name is Georgette Leona Williams Mayo. My date of birth is May 4th, 1957, and my place of birth is Brooklyn, New York.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=14.0,29.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nHow familiar were you with Charleston before you moved down here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=29.0,34.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nSomewhat familiar. I have a sister-in-law and her family that lives in North Charleston, and we would come and visit occasionally - but again, that was North Charleston, not Charleston proper, so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=34.0,49.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nSo what was your first impression when you came into the Charleston part proper?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=49.0,54.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nMy first impressions was that it was different from where I was living; I came from Columbia, South Carolina. And, beautiful terrain. But again, I didn't know that much about Charleston – so, no overriding opinions, initially.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=54.0,78.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nOkay. And then what was your professional background before you came to the Avery Research Center?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=78.0,83.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nOkay, so let's start with my education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=83.0,86.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nOkay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=86.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nI attended the University of South Carolina in Columbia. I did my undergraduate in African American Studies, and I did a minor - I did several minors: minors in Women's Studies and Cultural Anthropology. I stayed on for graduate school, did a double Master's in Library Science and Public History, specializing in archival management. So my undergraduate year, I graduated in 2002, magna cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa, and also entered my graduate school the same year, the graduate program, and that ended in 2005.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=90.0,148.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nSo what originally brought - I know you came for school, but what made you choose the South as a place for your undergraduate and graduate studies, being from Brooklyn, New York?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=148.0,158.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nWell, I've lived numerous places in between Brooklyn and Charleston, South Carolina - or just South Carolina period. So it wasn’t an immediate jump from New York to South Carolina.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=158.0,175.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nOkay. And then how did you first hear about the Avery Research Center, and did you have any prior knowledge before starting here for employment?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=175.0,184.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nWell, I first learned about the Avery Research Center for African American history and Culture. I had taken a Maymester class - and I'm speculating it was probably about 2001, 2002 - and it was with Dr. Cleveland Sellers and it was called “Troubling the Waters”, and it was learning about the Lowcountry, and specifically Charleston. Because he contended that a large population of the enslaved came through the ports of Charleston, and that many of us in this class were probably related to the enslaved that came through the ports of Charleston. So we came to Avery and we were given the tour by the curator, Mr. Curtis Franks, and we were taken behind the scenes into the archives and it made a lasting impression on me. Obviously a favorable impression on me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=184.0,245.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nAnd then what year did you start at the Avery Resource Center, before you became interim director?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=245.0,249.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\n2005. It was the summer, and I was already working on campus at the McKissick Museum and doing audio research and working for the South Carolina Broadcasting Association, that was located - their archives was located – in the McKissick Museum at the time. My co-director of the Public History department had received a email saying that Avery was looking for someone – you know, a budding archivist - to come to Avery to fulfill the remainder of grant monies that was left. And my mind was working, because I says, “My sister-in-law lives in North Charleston; I could stay with her for a couple of days and work at Avery.” So I thought that that was a wonderful opportunity, and obviously it was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=249.0,319.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nAnd then what was the political climate in the city of Charleston? And what kind of support did you get from the College of Charleston, being interim director during the Recession?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=319.0,328.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nNo, you're asking the political climate during that time? 2005, 2006 - just for clarification, or?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=328.0,335.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nDuring your time as interim.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=335.0,337.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\n2008? I knew who the mayor was. Joseph Riley, politically-wise, just was not in tune to what was going on politically. And in regards to the College of Charleston, I just knew that Avery was affiliated with the College of Charleston, only five short blocks away. So I didn't know that much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=337.0,364.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nAnd did you feel like you faced any barriers, not being from Charleston?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=364.0,368.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nInitially? When I received the job - I graduated in 2005, again, in December, and I was able to start January, 2006, here at Avery. And I think what would sum up this question in regards to barriers is, mostly because I'm not from here, I would be considered “from off” or a “comeya”. So when I was interim director, I was in this meeting and there was a gentleman that looked at me and said, “You're not from here.” I says, “I realize that. I know that,” and tried to go on with the meeting. He said it two more times: “You're not from here.” I looked him dead straight in the eyes and said, “It's not about me, it's about the history that we're preserving.” That kept them quiet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=368.0,432.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nNow you mentioned not being from here, but you also mentioned your sister-in-law were, in the North Star Exhibit. Can you talk about the role of your family and your support from 2006 to becoming to 2008, being interim director, and how they was able to support your endeavors?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=432.0,448.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nOkay, that's a complicated question, in regards to support. Obviously I had to have support not only professionally, but definitely family-wise. I am the proud mother of what are now three young adults. I always like to refer to them as that, but obviously, in 2006, they were young. My youngest had just started elementary school, and my oldest two daughters were in middle school, getting ready to go into high school. So when I became interim, I had to make amends with my ex-husband. Now keep in mind, we were legally divorced, but I felt it was more important that my children had a strong background while I was here doing a little bit of everything, because we wound up doing a lot of things during my tenure as interim director. And so I'm really thankful for him and how he stepped up to the plate and was the father that he wanted to be, and that he had that opportunity to be with them. And he was obviously very crucial in being my support system, in regards to taking care of the children.\n\nProfessionally-wise, my background at USC - I had several mentors: Dr. Valinda Littlefield, who was in the History Department along with African American Studies, she was one of my mentors, along with Dr. Constance Schultz, who was a co-director of the Public History Department. And she was in archives, so she was able to give me that kind of background and professional development on a continuous basis. And also Vinny Dees Moore, who is a cultural researcher and anthropologist, and she always told me, “Whatever you do, just write. Just write.” And so I try to live up to that. She wants me to write a book, so I'll probably do that eventually. But I do a lot of writing here at Avery, so I keep those things in mind. And considering the North Stars, namely three strong women, Dr. the Honorable Lucille Simmons Whipper, who, none of us would be here if it wasn't for her. And Eugene Hunt, and I'll explain that a little bit later, but to be who we are, what we do as the Avery Research Center for African-American History and Culture, Ms. Cynthia McCottry Smith, who we always called her Ms. Cindy, and I always deemed her as Avery's angel. She would come through the doors, she had a really positive energy. She would really brighten up our days when she came. And she also wrote for the Avery Messenger, she attended a lot of our functions, our events, and she was just a really wonderful support system. And the other person that I call the Ms. Ruth Rambo, who I'll talk about a little bit later when we talk about the Dr. Consuela Francis Reading Circle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=448.0,673.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nThank you. As you mentioned, you did so many things while you were an intern and you also did a smart classroom. What was your process for getting funding to manage the renovations and maintaining funds for programs, collections and exhibits?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=673.0,686.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nWell, in regards to renovations, I did not have to deal with anything like that; if something broke down, it was minor. The facilities plan - Mr. Oliver Smalls was our facilities manager at the time, so he was able to handle all those kinds of breakdowns, whatever minor repairs. Repeat the last part of the question again, please.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=686.0,718.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nPrograms, collections and exhibits – like, how were you able to manage all the different things you had to do with Avery's funds?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=718.0,725.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nIn short, being interim director, I knew that I had to stay within a budget, and that budget was strict and I made a lot of people upset, but I felt that we used what we had already utilizing things, and particularly with our programs, one of the things that we did, we have a large library of VHS tapes, and at the time we did have VHS machines that actually worked. And we had two televisions and one large screen in our McKinley Washington Auditorium. And we came up with a having film festivals. The first one was a Civil Rights film festival that we showed in January in commemoration for Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. And these film festivals were all-day film festivals. I mean, people would come and go, but we would serve hot drinks; I remember, I think that particular one in January, it was really cold. So fortunately we served a hot tea and coffee. We even served popcorn. And I mean, we didn't spend any money. And that was the beauty of it, because we were utilizing the things that we already had in our archives. Same thing when we did it again - we did one on Sweetgrass - and the production of it, and there was various videos that we had in regards to that. And then in June we celebrated Black Music Month – again tapping into our VHS tapes. I don't think we'd be able to do that now - we don't have an operable VHS machine now -  but we'd still have the VHS tapes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=725.0,853.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nAnd then what role did the Avery Institute of Afro-American History and Culture play in your administration?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=853.0,862.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nOur board, and I'd like to clarify because a lot of, when you're talking about a cultural institution, more times than not when you hear about them having a board, they hire, they fire. That's not the case with the Avery Institute of Afro-American History and Culture. They function more so like our Friends of the Library. They do fantastic fundraising; they had - at the time they had - jazz galas. And then our main vehicle to help get membership, outside of the galas that they would hold, is the Avery Messenger newsletter. We as the staff would write for the newsletter and pitch in funds to support it, but then the Board would fund the majority of the production of the newsletter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=862.0,924.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nAnd then how would you describe the impact of the Avery Normal School on the world? The alumni on your work – Averyites? During your time as interim, and then just processing some of their collections.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=924.0,937.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nWell, the role of the Avery Normal Institute and the Avery Institute was - fortunately, we had former students, which we call Averyites - still living: the Cynthia McCottry Smith - the room that we're in right now; Dr. Leonard Davis and his wife Norma Davis, they were related to Benjamin Cox, who was the principal of the Avery Normal Institute in 1916. And among - I'm thinking of Miss Lois Simms; she was still living at the time. She attended Avery. So they helped, they were active presence here at Avery as the Research Center. They physically reminded us of our charge and that it was important to keep their legacy alive, not only for the ones that were living, but the ones that had passed. And also comes to mind is Septima Poinsette Clark. Unfortunately, I did not have the opportunity of ever meeting her, but it's just her legacy, her impact, I think of every day - not only looking at her beautiful portrait that we have on the second floor of her, but just the idea that she attended here. She even taught here for a year. And what she went on to do as far as being a teacher, fighting for equal pay, being part of the citizenship schools, establishing them with Dr. Martin Luther King throughout the South in the early Sixties - along with her cousin, Bernice Robinson, who did not attend Avery, but she's equally as important. So it's a wonderful foundation, to be here and to work off of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=937.0,1068.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nThank you. And can you talk about your professional support system at Avery, in terms of different staff members - you previously in one of our questions mentioned Mr. Oliver Smalls, and you've also mentioned Ms. Deb– well, you haven't mentioned it, but - Ms. Deborah Wright. How were they able to support you while you were interim director?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=1068.0,1084.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nOkay. I always like to say that Ms. Deborah Wright was my right hand, and Mr. Oliver Smalls was my left hand. Now keep in mind, we had a professional, capable, just outstanding staff, but they were the ones that actually was able to help me facilitate my vision and what I wanted to do. And that's not to disparage Harlan Green, who is outstanding in regards to being the manager of the archives, Mr. Curtis Franks, who was our curator, and it was a good team.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=1084.0,1143.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nAnd then can you discuss your work with the Avery Board? And, how were members selected?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=1143.0,1148.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nNow, I am not sure certain how members were selected. That was their department; that's what they did. But in regards to how I worked with them, I worked with the Avery Board every month, attending the meetings. I had to give a director's report, which meant the number of what collections had been processed, giving a report of all the events that took place, and upcoming events. And it was a lot. We were doing a lot of things during that time period.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=1148.0,1191.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nAnd then how were you able to network with other organizations and get their support for the Avery Research Center?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=1191.0,1196.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nWell, I find that we really didn't have to go out and ask other entities to help us. It was really the other way around. I felt that being a director of a cultural institution and a known institution to many, not everybody, but many people knew us and they knew what we did, and they wanted to take part in it. And you're having people come right and left and left and right, and it's like more than what a person could really handle. So you really had to ferret it out, what was going to be an advantage for not only Avery, but for the participating institution. So talking about collaborations: when they worked, they were wonderful. And we did have several collaborations that really worked well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=1196.0,1254.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nAnd then how important was it to work with young children - with your Saturdays For Our Youth program, and you also had the Avery summer camps, African American History camps?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=1254.0,1263.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nOkay. Well, the Avery Summer camps was really the brainchild - and Dr. Marvin Dulaney, he had started that - and my children were able to take advantage of it prior to me being interim director. So that was really wonderful, and that really, really inspired me to obviously keep working with it when I was interim, because I felt that it was very, very important that the Avery Summer Camps were a week long.\n\nIn the mornings, and the students, they would learn about the local history and we would bring somebody in every day to teach them something different. Like Ms. Henrietta Snype, a sweetgrass basket-maker - she would show them how to create a medallion. We had storytellers, and then we would serve a healthy lunch, and then it would culminate into that Friday: we would have a ceremony - award ceremony - and all the participants would get something, and then obviously we would invite their parents to partake. So they were three separate weeks of activities, so every week we would have a new group. And the fees, the cost was really nominal. It wasn't expensive. So I was thankful to be able to do that. In regards to “Saturdays for the Youths”, not only having me being a parent, a mother, I felt that it was important, but I remember when I was growing up and my mother would take me to museums, libraries, so, hence, this is what I wind up doing.\n\nI had that lasting interest, and I just wanted to be able to introduce young people to possibilities of careers in the future that they might not have even known about archives. You're not taught about archives. I didn't really know anything about archives until I was in college as an undergraduate. And I felt that, and I still feel very passionately that many professions, we have to introduce our young people to them when they're young, to plant that seed. So just to give them opportunities. So getting back to Saturdays for our use, during that time that we had, it ran several months and we would do it once a month. And the first one, we was having our exhibit, “Mermaids and Mer-women in Black Folklore”, and we had one of the curators, Cookie Washington, speak about being a curator of an exhibit, what a museum exhibit is, and the background of the actual exhibit that was on display.\n\nAnother time we had two young film makers - Kaminsky, and I don't remember his partner's name - but they did a documentary of hip-hop in the Lowcountry. And again, bringing in those young people and talking about hip-hop locally, so students, the children, could relate - because it wasn't something that was happening in New York or Atlanta, it was happening right here. Another one we did was with music, and one of the professors, he was in the School of Education at the time, and he came in and talked about music. And then we had another person come in and they played off of each other. They're doing blues music. And then I think the last one we did was a woman talked about archeology and the students walked away with hand-painted mask they painted. So that was really nice. So it was just the idea of introducing young people to things that they might not know it, they didn't learn in school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=1263.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nAnd then what role does Avery play in supporting Charleston residents?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=1560.0,1566.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nAgain, Avery supports people here in the Lowcountry, basically, about education and different forms of education. I’m also a big believer that education doesn't just happen in a schoolroom, classroom. It takes place everywhere. And one of the many things I love about Avery is that the majority of the activities, the events, the lectures, are free. You go around anywhere else at a cultural institution here in Charleston and - not knocking them, because you have to keep the lights on - you're going to pay money. And that prohibits a lot of people from even being interested, when they know that there's a price - and sometimes a high price - in partaking. That's something that's cultural, educational. So as I said, we do different forms of education, not only –bn  and I always feel that everything stems from our archives, the collections that we have, the archival collections that we have, the books that we have, the video tapes that we have inspires a lot of the artistic renderings that we have up on the walls and our public programming.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=1566.0,1667.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nAnd with that being said, one of the first collections you said you processed was Dr. Millicent Brown, and you also did a conversation with our donors. Can you talk about the impact of being able to work with some of the people who donated their collections and how that informs your archival practice?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=1667.0,1684.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nOkay. Well, thank you for bringing up conversations with our donors. That's one of my proud programs that we started when I was interim director, working with donors, is, I'm not trying to make this more lengthy than it has to be, but there's obviously, we're not looking for a particular type of collection per se, for we want everybody's collections if it fits within. Our mission was to collect, preserve, document, and exhibit the African American culture here in Charleston and the low country. So keeping within that mission and the conversations with our donors started when I was interim, and the first person that we interviewed was Mr. James Campbell, who was one of our North Stars, and we had Curtis Franks interview him. And it was good because the premise behind that program was to inform our audience and people in the community that attended why archives are important to ask the person that was being interviewed: why did they donate the collection? Why did they think that their collection was important to be in an archive, and how do they foresee their collection being utilized? You never know. You never know what kind of researcher. We get all different types of researchers, not only the scholars, but we also get grade school students to come and do their papers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=1684.0,1807.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nAnd then you received multiple grants during your administration on processing collections. How did you prioritize what collections you wanted to work on? I know most archives have a backlog. What was your process on what collections to process?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=1807.0,1822.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nOh, I didn't. I wasn't processing, basically when I became interim, I basically let Harlan Green and his team prioritize what collections were being processed and done. I mean, that department was in able hands.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=1822.0,1843.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nAnd then how did you manage budget cuts and shortages in staffing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=1843.0,1848.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nOkay, well, how we handled budget cuts - and I didn't realize that because it is been a while ago. It's like 17, 15 years ago, since I've been interim. So I forgot that we had budget cuts during that time period. But from 2008 to 2009, there was a 4% State of South Carolina budget cut. And since we're funded by the state of South Carolina, that – obviously – that did affect us. And beginning with this interview, and I had mentioned it was one of my mandates to stay within budget. Again, being really creative with the public programming, and we did a lot of public programming. We were able to stay within budget even more so that we were below budget, which was wonderful, but we still wanted to utilize those funds because if you don't use 'em, they're gone. So we were able to turn our first floor classroom into a smart classroom that was more became advantageous not only for us as employees, but we use that as a selling point for professors to bring their classes over from the College of Charleston. What was the rest of the question?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=1848.0,1928.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nAnd sure. Just in staff?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=1928.0,1931.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nNow, we were always short staffed, always. And I think that we had at the time, a larger staff than we even do today. I mean, we had, I want to say five full-time employees, and three, we were funded, three graduate students. So I think for the time I was interim, we was doing so much that I know that we were all getting burnout. So the concept of pacing ourselves, particularly myself, was not a concept. It is now looking in hindsight, but at the time, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=1931.0,1982.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nAnd I guess I should have asked you this earlier. How did you become the interim executive director?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=1982.0,1990.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nDr. Delaney was getting ready to accept a teaching position in Texas where he came from. He's not from there, but he was teaching in, I think, Arlington, Texas. Obviously. I had only been at Avery for two and a half years. It took me quite by surprise, I think I'm quite sure. It took a lot of other people quite by surprise also, because again, I've only been here for two and a half years. I felt that there were able staff that had been here way longer to be the interim director. So yeah, at the time I questioned why me, but I'm always a four challenge, so I stepped into it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=1990.0,2045.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nThank you. And then as interim director, where is your process for getting support for some of your initiatives, including the lowest a Sims volunteer program,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=2045.0,2054.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nThe support from","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=2054.0,2059.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nStaff and other community members, like your stakeholders of the Avery when you went to implement new things or longtime supporters of the Avery for some of your initiatives? And then how did you start the lowest a Sims volunteer program?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=2059.0,2076.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nWell, let me answer the last one first about the lowest as Sims. Ms. Sims was at Avery. She was also the first volunteer when with the inception of the Avery Research Center for African-American History and Culture. So I felt it only fitting. She was still living, she was still very much able, and she was a wonderful supporter of Avery to name the program after her. That's how we got people interested in becoming volunteers is because of her legacy and that foundation. And I felt that initially the program worked out well. I mean, we had people wanting to, the volunteered in front desk to help in the gift shop to help with some of the programs, showing people to their seats. Nothing really all that taxing, but obviously it was advantageous for us and it was advantageous for the people that volunteered because they felt that they was doing something and it was something positive in regards to support in regards to our public programming. Obviously I had the support of the board, and I would always encourage them, they would support, but I would always encourage them like, Hey, come to our events. We have a lot of them and they're really good events. But I want to say that outside of Ms. Wright and Oliver Smalls, it's like we think of stuff to do and we would just go ahead and do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=2076.0,2200.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nAnd then can you describe your work with history makers?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=2200.0,2203.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nOkay, back in - was it 2009? - I received the email from the History Makers. And for those that do not know about History Makers, they hold the largest oral history taped interviews that are now held at the Library of Congress. And it was started with Julianne Richardson, and she interviews prominent and not so prominent. And that's the beauty of her archive is because she has a wide range of interviews from president to scientists, teachers, if she even interviewed the Honorable Lucille Whipper and I think several other people here in Charleston, she had contacted me and several other institutions in regards to applying for IMLS, Laura Bush 20th Century Grant to elicit African American archivists – young, budding archivists - and to coming them into the profession because how I felt and how she felt, and many others, there were not many African-American black people of color archivists working in any archives. So as soon as she contacted me, she called me, we spoke personally and then followed up with an email. It's like we jumped on it. It's like, “Oh, this is perfect!” So we applied for the grant and it was, if I'm not mistaken, $750,000 grant for gating each institution - and I'm not sure how many institutions - but we would get 12 applicants to work at 12 different archives for at least two years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=2203.0,2349.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nAnd that's what brought our current Manager of Archival Services, Ms. Aaisha Haykal and Audra Whitney into the profession and working here. So I definitely think that that's a lasting legacy because Ms. Haykal is still working here, and she's my immediate supervisor. So I'm really proud of that endeavor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=2349.0,2378.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nThen where was the Avery Gift Shop located, and what items did you sell?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=2378.0,2382.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nOkay. It was located initially when I first came during my brief time, before I graduated in 2005, it was located upstairs and that room turned into our boardroom. And so when I returned in 2006, they had retrofitted downstairs where our library is currently not the library that when people walk in and they could take a look at the books, that kind of thing, but it's not our closed stack library, but books that we have on display. So the shelving was retrofitted to accommodate books. We sold t-shirts, sweatshirts. We even sold Tuskegee Airmen memorial sweatshirts. But obviously we also sold Avery merch - what they were called nowadays - jewelry, just little gifts, mementos. But we had a wonderful gift shop, and particularly with books that you could not get readily elsewhere in Charleston. So I'm sorely missed still to this day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=2382.0,2465.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nWhen did the gift shop close?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=2465.0,2467.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nIt closed in 2010.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=2467.0,2472.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nAnd then, what was your vision for Avery when you began working as interim? It's a two part question - when you began as an archivist, and then as interim director.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=2472.0,2485.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nWell, I always believed in keeping with the mission and not delving from it unless you're going to actually change the mission. And the mission, from what I understood, was to collect, preserve, document and exhibit African American culture in a low country and focusing on Charleston sometimes as say and beyond, because we're encompassing parts of Africa. But I don't know if I really answered that question. My vision is always, my focus has always been, with the archives; that's what I'm trained to do. I'm an archivist at heart, so that was my focus, but I always wanted -  Avery was my dream job, and it still is because I wanted to be an archivist in a museum setting - and that's what I wanted to do, and that's what I got.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=2485.0,2562.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nAnd then how has Avery helped promote new scholarship and support researchers?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=2562.0,2567.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nWell, we always, as we know, we're prior the College of Charleston, we're just five short blocks away, and we're always searching for students to come work here and to learn the ropes, as they say, not only in archives, but in museum installation and public programming. And in turn, I think that that helps the students, not only many of the students that we've had here, not only undergraduates, but graduate students. It helps them with their thesis. A lot of times they'll write, they will do their research on our archives, like a collection that we have. So we're always constantly, it's always about education. That's the foundation. That's the underlining theme.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=2567.0,2626.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nAnd then as Antonio, you did mention budget cuts, but what would you have done if you had access to unlimited funding stream as interim director?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=2626.0,2643.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nBig dreams, you always have to dream big. We have what used to be a teacher's residence adjacent to us. It was a teacher's residence when it was Avery Normal Institute. Some of his teachers would live there, and it was just convenient for them to reside there. So turning that into, we would have fellowships and advertise for fellowships around the world, not only here in America, but we do have researchers internationally that come here and have it as to turn it into an actual residence for them to stay. There was something else, but I'll have to go back to that, but there was something else that I think also a laboratory for teaching archives. I would love to do that still.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=2643.0,2718.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nAnd then what were some of your greatest accomplishments and challenges as interim director?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=2718.0,2724.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nAs I said, and I know I keep repeating myself, but within that two year period, I did a lot. History Makers, obviously is one of the big ones. The exhibit Mermaids and MER Women and Black Folklore with Cookie Washington and Katherine Lampkin being the curators. And how that came about is that Cookie came to me one day with this book called Her Stories, and it was stories told by Virginia Hamilton, and she says, there's a folklore that started here in the low country about black mermaids. And she says, I have this dream, this vision of having an exhibit, of having black quilters create black mermaids. And I'm like, okay, that sounds good. That sounds like it is within the mission, but it's also something that is not too many people know about. And I says, let's go ahead and do it. And Cookie Washington, not only is she a curator, but she is a talented and renowned fiber artist.\n\nSo that to me was a no-brainer. And again, we was able to spin off of that exhibit. We had lectures that we had the Saturdays for Youth Program with Cookie being the speaker on that, so that was good. Another one that happened during my first year as interim in 2008 was we partnered with Stanford University's anthropology department. It was three anthropologists, well, two anthropologists and one anthropology grad student and three undergraduate students. And they would be using Avery as their research home base, and they called it the Sea Island Summerfield School. And we were able to connect them with scholars, local practitioners in regards to the history of the low country. The students wound up doing a final project where they would have a presentation of their research. So that was pretty successful. And we wound up doing that collaboration for three years or three times within 2008 to 2010.\n\nI want to take a look at my note real fast, because the other program that we partnered with the Sweetgrass basket maker and Ms. Henrietta Snipe was Sweetgrass: the Next Generation. She came to us and said, not too many young people are pursuing or know about how to do create Sweetgrass baskets. And she says, “I want a program that will help facilitate teaching young people how to make sweetgrass baskets.” So that coincided with an exhibit that we did called Sweetgrass that also coincided with Grassroots. Dr. Dale Rosengarten was a co-curator of that, and that was a traveling exhibit that started at the Gibbes and opened in 2008. And that Avery had co-partner with, so everything melded in together. So we were really proud to help facilitate that program in regards to teaching young people - And it wound up to be young men, the majority of them in the program - to create sweetgrass baskets. And each week we would meet twice a month for I think about five months. So not only did they work on making sweetgrass baskets, but they also learned about archives. They learned about museum curation.\n\nThey learn a lot in regards to what it takes to put on an exhibit. And they actually had an exhibit, in fact, in this room, we displayed their baskets and we invited people to come and their parents. And that was a really good program. The other program that we partnered with, the Smithsonian, this is before they opened up their National African American Museum, Dr. Lottie Bunch, had contacted us and said that he wanted to have what would be like an antiques roadshow - he wanted people to come with what they thought that was valuable and treasured in their family. And we held it at Burke High School, and it was in conjunction with the International African American Museum, which wasn't open at the time, but they still had a director and a board of directors and the old Slave Mark. And we all partnered with that event. So it was basically a weekend-long event, and then they wound up going down to Penn Center, but the Avery took an integral part into save our African American treasures.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=2724.0,3108.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nAnd in regards to fundraising, Jonathan Green had gotten in contact with me and he said, I have these posters that I want to donate to Avery, but I want them framed. I don't want them sitting in your archive. Unframed says you need to get in contact with the people of the board. The associations that that worked with Avery, the Jack and Jills, the Links, the AKAs, the Deltas, get them to fund the framing. So it took a little bit to get that endeavor off the ground. But in January, 2010, we were able to have an exhibit with him as guest of honor speaking to a crowded room. And everybody was really excited. Not only framed, we had the post is framed by Gallery Chuma and Ms. Cynthia McCottry did beautiful calligraphy and dedicated each, if you paid for the framing, you could dedicate it to whomever. So let's say it was the Jack and Jills, they had their name calligraphy underneath the poster, and then everything was framed and said, “Dedicated from Jack and Jill's.” So that was a worthy endeavor and a great fundraiser. So those are the top things that come to my mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=3108.0,3218.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nOkay. And any challenges?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=3218.0,3221.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nOh, yes, unfortunately, and I blame myself. I did not have buy-in from everybody on staff. I dealt with things und diplomatically, and I paid for it. And that was my biggest regret. And reflecting back, I was too ambitious, and I felt that everybody should have the same fever as me, and it's not going to work out that way. So I am sincerely sorry for the way that I acted, and the staff wasn't deserving at that, but they still rose to the occasion and they did the best job that they did, and I'm appreciative of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=3221.0,3294.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nAnd then what do you think is an under-told aspect of the history of the Avery Research Center for African American history and culture?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=3294.0,3301.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nWell, it's funny when you say untold, because I always feel that people know about things that you know about. Like Septima Clark, you take those things for granted that everybody knows her. But in regards to the inception of Avery, I'm taking for granted that everybody knows that not only was it a struggle and a challenge for the honorable Lucille Whipper and Eugene Hunt, Lucille Whipper was integral for working with the state and the College of Charleston and getting this building and saving it from being a condominium, which the state wanted to turn it into, and working with them. And then Eugene Hunt, who was a tenured English professor at the College of Charleston, and exciting people and letting them know it's like, “Your collection is important. We're going to turn into an archival collection. People will do research. They might even write a book off of your story, your papers. So it's important that you donate your papers.” So I'm not sure if everybody knows that, but it's important that people do know that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=3301.0,3391.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nAnd then what do you want visitors to leave with after visiting the Avery?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=3391.0,3397.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nI want them to know that this is a place of education, but the beauty about education, again, it's not just being in a classroom. You're learning something. Hopefully you have a takeaway that you learned that something that you didn't know. The advantage of it being a treasure here in Charleston and being able to know that everybody's history is important. It's not just the notable people that you hear about on the news and social media, but everybody has a story. And those stories can help just even if it's just one person, it's done its job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=3397.0,3451.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nAnd then in another roles that you have, you have many, how did you begin the Dr. Consuela Francis Book Club? And what is your favorite book?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=3451.0,3461.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nOkay. Dr. Consuela Francis was a professor, an English professor here at the College of Charleston. And before she passed away, she was an administrator. When she started here, she worked in the African-American History Department, and it was a minor, she turned it into a major department. So that was a big feat because she had to work with the state of South Carolina to get that done. Her community effort was to, she started a reading circle called Dart After Dark. Now DART is the John L DART Library, which during, back in the day was be Colored Library during this time of Jim Crow segregation. It's still active, obviously it's not segregated anymore, but it's located on King Street.\n\nSo she would work with community people and they would have, she would recommend books. And she even wrote a grant, I think, and was able to get books for the participants to read. Well, when she passed Ms. Ruth Rambo, she was avid reader. She loved literature. When Dr. Consuela Francis passed in 2016, Ms. Rambo alerted me, and I keep in mind, I had never been to Dart After Dark, but I knew of it because we would help as Avery, we would help promote it. Ms. Rambo had gotten in contact with me, and she says, Avery needs to take this up. And the librarian at the time, the manager at the John l Dart Library, she was trying to keep it up. And I says, okay, I, I'll sign on. And again, loving a challenge. So with the help of this Ruth Rambo, we started meeting at the John L Dart Library, and I'm excited to say that we're coming up on 10 years because Dr. Francis passed away in 2016, the earlier part of the year.\n\nAnd that later part of the year, we started working with the John L Dart Library. So we met at the library for several years. And even my daughter, my middle child, Zora, well, they're all avid readers, but she was interested in taking part in the reading circle. So we included her, which was wonderful because I felt that it was a really generational, we had a young person, we had a middle aged person, we had an elder, and we would all take turns in selecting the books. It got to a point that there was different management at the library, and we no longer met at the library. So I said, that's fine. We have Avery. So that worked out for two sessions, and then COVID happened. So we regrouped, we sort of figured, well, which direction we want to go. The most logical one was just to do it on Zoom.\n\nSo several months later we started working on Zoom. And then there was this particular author that I had selected, if I'm not mistaken, for the August or September book, and looking on her website, it said that her booking management said, “Oh, if you're interested in having the author speak at your book club, contact us.” So that's what I did. And unfortunately, I can't think of the name of the author, but she was our first author that joined us, and she was really receptive, obviously, because she was living in Italy at the time. So we zoomed her in time difference and all, and it was wonderful. So that motivated me to keep searching for authors. So we had numerous offers during our time period of being on Zoom, join us. And what we do request is that our members or anybody is, and it's open to anybody, but to have the actual people that are interested in the book read the book prior to the discussion. So we could ask intelligent questions of the author, or, if there's no author, just have a good discussion. But you can't have a good discussion if you hadn't read the book.\n\nAnd unfortunately, I missed the Ms Ruth Rambo. She passed away in 2024, last April. So in January, which is her birthday month, we dedicate to her and make sure that we have a book of Black literature, which she loved. And then Dr. Consuela Francis, her birthday month is on April. So we always either highlight her favorite authors, which is Octavia Butler and James Baldwin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=3461.0,3831.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nAnd then what other roles have you had while working at the Avery Research Center?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=3831.0,3836.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nI started off as a processing archivist, which I am today, but I was also a processing - no, I'm sorry, project archivist - and a research archivist. And I still feel that even though I say I'm a processing archivist or they deemed me a processing archivist, I love working with researchers. And we all have specific days that we work in the research room. And the reason why I love working as a research archivist is because I'm helping researchers, and I love to see how the collections that we process are being utilized by researchers. And they always amaze me because they come up with research topics that I'm learning from the researcher as much as they're hopefully learning from us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=3836.0,3897.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nAnd then what keeps you at the Avery Research Center for African American History and Culture?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=3897.0,3903.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nAs I said in the beginning, or somewhat in the beginning, that Avery is my dream job and is never boring. You never know who's going to walk through those doors. And I'm still learning. I'm still learning about Charleston, I'm still learning about Avery. I couldn't see myself working anywhere else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=3903.0,3934.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nOkay. And before I ask my final question, is there anything else that you would like to include or highlight about your time at Avery or your family or professional background?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=3934.0,3946.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nOh, wow. I think everybody knows outside of me being from Brooklyn, New York, me having three young adults getting ready to have my second grandchild, that I've been here for 19 and a half years, it'll be 20 years in January. And I say that very proudly, and no place is ever perfect. I'm not trying to build this place, Avery up as being the be all end all. But as I said, I couldn't see myself being anywhere else. The environment that I want to be in, being an archivist in a museum setting, I'm constantly learning. I'm constantly being challenged to improve my skills, to improve my writing.\n\nSo I am just thankful. I have a lot to be thankful for. And let me go back in regards to when I first started here and had the opportunity of knowing that I was going to be working here when I was a graduate school student. And in the back of my mind, I knew that the International African-American Museum was going to be built. And I said, “Okay, great. I can get in on the ground floor when I graduate.” Well, there was no ground floor. There was only a board of directors. I don't even think they had a director by the time I graduated. So I am very thankful for the Avery Research Center for African American History and Culture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=3946.0,4052.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nThank you. And then this is my final question. The Avery Research Center for African American History and Culture recently received funding from the Mellon Foundation and recognition of the 160th anniversary of the Avery Normal Institute and the 40th anniversary of the Avery Resource Center under the goal of recognizing the institution's liberatory legacy. In your opinion, how would you describe the liberatory legacy of Avery? And how can we continue to tell the history of the Avery Normal Institute in the Lowcountry?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=4052.0,4082.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nWell, first of all, I would love to thank the Mellon Foundation for this most generous grant. I feel that we're utilizing it to the best of our abilities In regards to liberatory,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=4082.0,4099.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nLegacy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=4099.0,4100.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nLegacy, we have, obviously, a rich foundation with the Avery Normal Institute that was started with the American Missionary Association, who established schools throughout the South. The foundation is not just the education, but what you do with that education in regards to they promoted leaders for their students - they wanted them to be important, and community members movers and shakers, and not afraid to stand up against all the opposition of that during that time period, the oppression, that kind of thing. So I consider that legacy is so important, and I'm so thankful that we have elders. We still have a couple of elders that are still living the talk about their time at Avery and how it was important for them and their formation and their rearing of becoming a grown person that was able to be an attribute to their community. So we can still learn so much from the elders and then fostering the education in our own way here at Avery for the youth. So everything begins with a good foundation, and I think we have an excellent foundation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=4100.0,4202.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"DaNia Childress\n\nThank you, Ms. Mayo, for your time today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=4202.0,4205.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840/transcript/94362/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Georgette Mayo\n\nThank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3724/collection_resources/172909/file/311840#t=4205.0,4207.0"}]}]}]}