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I'm going to ask you your name and ask you to then spell your first and last name. Then I'm going to ask you what you consider to be home or where you see your earliest experiences and childhood formation. And then kind of ask for whatever title that you associate with yourself now, okay? So we're rolling? Okay. All right. Would you give us your name and spell both first and last for us?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=0.0,37.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nYep. My name is Shanalea Forrest, and it's spelled S-H-A-N-A-L-E-A. It's all one word. Forrest is F-O-R-R-E-S-T.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=37.0,49.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nOkay. And what do you consider to be home, Shanalea?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=49.0,54.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nI grew up in Minnesota.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=54.0,56.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nOkay. What part?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=56.0,57.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nMelrose, Minnesota. And it's in Central Minnesota.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=57.0,61.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nOkay, okay. And what is the title that you carry or use to identify yourself now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=61.0,72.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nWell, I am a marketing assistant, also community organizer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=72.0,77.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nOkay. And what's where?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=77.0,81.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nIn Eugene, Oregon. I just organize as opportunities present themselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=81.0,87.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nOkay. We'll have a chance to explore that a little bit more. Give us just a little bit of background, Shanalea, because we know from your activities both in the past, as well as your community organizing now, you have demonstrated a commitment to working with community people at the community level. Tell us a little bit about where that comes from. Is that out of a family tradition or is that something that you gravitated to?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=87.0,127.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nSure. Well, it's something I've gravitated to, even from a very young age as a little girl, I took it upon myself to after school, I would bike to the local nursing home and hang out with the elders that lived there and adopted some grandparents. And I would also, if I came across an organization that was raising money, I would put efforts into that as well. And then as I grew up - became a teenager - my sister was active, she was in college and she was an activist and I would hang out with her. And my first really rally and march was Take Back the Night, with her. And then from there-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=127.0,188.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWhen would that have been, Shanalea?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=188.0,190.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nThat would've been probably about 1995. I was probably about 15. Maybe, probably about 15. And then from there, she was a part of the Native American group on campus and they were protesting at the federal building to free Leonard Peltier. And that was really where I just became even more aware of the importance of doing that work. And I think I had some involvement in various things, but then I didn't get really involved in community organizing until Occupy and I was a part of Occupy Eugene and-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=190.0,248.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nOkay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=248.0,249.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\n... so really got-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=249.0,250.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWait, wait a minute just for clarity now. So you're not in Minnesota anymore?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=250.0,254.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nNo, no. I moved to Oregon in 2010. Yep, I moved to Oregon in 2010 and I think Occupy was 2011 and that's actually where I met Muhiyidin. We met on the first day of the occupation and really got involved in a lot of work within supporting the houseless community out of Occupy. And from there, just volunteered and served with various organizations that were doing that work. I've kind of been a person that kind of just sees a need and just supports. I suppose I've been in positions of leadership, but I don't even realize it, that I am. I'm just doing what needs to be done.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=254.0,318.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nI'm very curious about the reaction, say, from your parents or your friends growing up. Is the activities that you and your sister are involved in, are there - you have lots of comrades doing this kind of thing or are you two the outliers?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=318.0,349.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nWhen I went with my sister, I was just... she was in college, I was in high school. It was just opening my eyes. I didn't have [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=349.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"] that were doing [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=360.0,362.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"]. In high school I remember going back and my English teacher who, Dale Nushuan[?], he was very influential. He really encouraged us to speak up and to kind of step outside of where I grew up. It was very small town, not a whole lot of open-mindedness, I'll say. Though, I'm sure there was and I just didn't know or see it much. So I remember going back to school and sharing about my experience. He really wanted me to share what that was and I've always been someone who just kind of spoke up about \"controversial issues.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=362.0,415.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nI would say human rights. They don't seem very controversial to me. There were definitely people who, still to this day, didn't really like me for that reason. But I had my close friends that, I guess, I can't really remember what they thought at that time. But moving ahead to Occupy, during that time, I think a lot of my comrades were in the movement with me, you know? And my immediate family, most of them have been very supportive. My extended family, maybe not so much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=415.0,467.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nCan you talk about that just a little bit? Because I think it's important to just hear from you, what it takes to commit yourself to the kind of belief systems and work that you've been doing. We sometimes don't consider what we had to go up against.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=467.0,493.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nThat's right, that's right. I feel like when I've gone to family events and whatnot, I'm kind of, I don't know, I don't want to know if I want to use the word “outcast”, but people aren't supportive, they're skeptical of me. I think they, they show some love, but kind of snickering behind my back kind of a thing. You do lose support, you lose... But I have family that are very supportive. My sister, my mother, my brother. I have four siblings and two of them, I don't know, I think they feel threatened by it, like a lot of white people do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=493.0,565.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nAnd I just keep doing me and saying what I need to say and hope that it's opening their hearts and minds. I've had to really learn how to be very patient. And it's hard to be patient about it because we know the implications of that mindset and the importance of moving people past that conditioning. I feel grateful. I have great friends who are really supportive and friends who maybe haven't fully understood, but the more we talk they've gained greater understanding. And it's a good reminder of the importance to just continue to do that work and that we can change hearts and minds as hard and challenging as that can be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=565.0,636.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nYou mentioned that your sister introduced you to this through having joined a Native American group when she was in college, and do you or she identify as Native American?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=636.0,647.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nYes, my family is from Northern Minnesota, Ojibwa. We're not connected to our family. My grandfather on my mother's side is indigenous. And my mother grew up going up and visiting her grandparents and her grandmother would braid her hair and they'd go to the powwow, go to powwows. And she had that experience. But even her I try to... I want to learn more, but we don't have a lot of, we don't really know a lot about that part of our family. And colonialism and racism and all of it has everything - and genocide - to do with that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=647.0,711.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWas it talked about in your family much at all?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=711.0,715.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nNot the family history so much, but we knew that we were indigenous, and we knew what happened. We knew the history. And so I think growing up knowing that as a white person, a white indigenous person, gives you a certain kind of perspective and understanding that other white people don't necessarily have or have to have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=715.0,745.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nBy the time you get to Oregon, and you said that the Occupy movement probably was particularly influential for you at that stage. How, for the record, do you define the Occupy movement? I mean, what was it about for you, especially?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=745.0,765.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nI think it was people coming to this understanding that our government's not looking out for all of us, majority of us and that there needed to be changes. I think that one of the biggest things, the challenges was that there wasn't a focused agenda or purpose. It was like people coming together and having different ideas of what the focus should be. And I think that was maybe one of the greatest challenges of the Occupy movement, but also the thing that brought people from various walks of life together in that moment as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=765.0,821.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nBut really what it became for me is the importance of community supporting community, us getting our needs met, if our needs aren't being met from our governments and things like that, then we need to be... There's voids that need to be filled. There's things that that, we as a community, need to provide for each other and resources to be shared. That was the greatest thing, my purpose in the Occupy movement was, or what I was doing is building morale. And I did a lot of, I worked in the kitchen, so we were serving food to hundreds of people, and I was actually going to school at that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=821.0,876.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nI was in college at that time and I would leave and there was maybe one other person in the kitchen sometimes. And there's a long line waiting to eat. And I just like, it was hard for me to leave to go to my classes. I actually quit school to continue doing that work just because it just felt like the need was so great. And that felt more important to me at the time, but really just recognizing the struggles and the hurts that people were experiencing. A lot of people were houseless, that were at the camp. Other people were not, and they stayed at the camp and some people, like myself, I had a little one. I had a three- or four-year-old at that time, so I didn't stay at the camp.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=876.0,939.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nBut I would go and we would... Moya and I would hold meditations. He would do sound healing. We'd create music, make sure people had clothes, everything they needed. And if they didn't, we would get those things for the people that needed it. And then we would protest at various banks and around town. And I'm not sure if I answered your question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=939.0,976.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAbsolutely. What population are you talking about serving? You said people who were houseless and whatever, but what other demographics can you share with us as to who you were tending to?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=976.0,1001.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nWell, Eugene is very white, so the majority of the population there were white. There were also people of color present as well. But I don't know, if I'm thinking back feels like so long ago, I think the majority were... also not only houseless, but low-income. But I feel like there were... that's probably the majority of people that were there were lower-class, low-income folks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=1001.0,1062.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nMm-hmm. Now, let's talk about how Charleston, South Carolina, find you, or you find it, whichever one it was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=1062.0,1075.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nYep. So, 2014, I was a housekeeper at a sorority and I had the summer off and my son's father lived in Minnesota. I always did whatever I could to make sure that they were able to spend as much time together as possible. And he really only left Oregon because he couldn't find work here for various reasons. That summer, Moya, we lived together and he decided to move back to South Carolina to really support - he wanted to support his family, and be present with his family. I made the decision to go and visit my son's father or for him to visit his father and me to visit my family and friends. And I was inspired to homeschool my son on the road by somebody that I had been following, who she worldschools, her son.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=1075.0,1159.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nSo they travel around the world and that's been their schooling. And now he's 18 plus. And then I just started kind of praying on it and talking to just kind of putting that idea, putting it out there into the universe, sharing with people and just being open to where I was being guided to. And the East Coast is what came up. So there was an opportunity in Vermont to work at an unschooling camp that somebody in Oregon who I know runs and I'm a part of a meditation family. One of our centers is in Florida. I was going to go down there and spend some time at the meditation center and do some stay, but there some service there. And then it was, my birthday's in August.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=1159.0,1225.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nSo I was talking with Moya and he was like, \"What do you want for your birthday?\" I'm like, \"Well, I would love to come and see you, we're going to be traveling.\" He is like, \"All right, come on, come down.\" And so I did, and he was working on writing up the blueprint for Building from the Block Up, and that was very extensive. I ended up supporting him with that and writing it because we did a lot of activism here. We didn't just do Occupy. We just, whenever there was different events, we would go and we would be networking and just kind of seeing what the need was and seeing where we could fill in. We were already kind of doing it. So I knew Building from the Block Up, not as well as he did, but I knew his heart and I knew the heart of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=1225.0,1282.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nSo we worked on that. I think it took three weeks to write that up. And he had... One night he's like, \"I have this video conference call to do.\" And maybe that was a little bit later. It's interesting now thinking of the timeline of things. So then from there I went to visit some Baha'is in Charleston, I wanted to go visit Charleston and he had other things that he was going to do. He introduced me to some other Baha'is in Charleston and I ended up staying at their place. And from there I was going to move, go up to Vermont and I ended up getting sick and getting strep throat. I couldn't travel. I couldn't go up there. So I had to cancel those plans. And I had shared this dream that I had about, I knew the people I was staying.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=1282.0,1359.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nI knew of them from Moya. He had talked, spoken of them. And I had had this dream about them. And I had shared this dream and she was like, \"Wow, that's really interesting because we are looking for - we need some help.\" Her and her and her partner at the time, they're not married, were in medical school. And they were doing a lot of serving in the community, children's classes, youth groups, and hosting different things for the Baha'i, local Baha'i community and the great community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=1359.0,1392.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nDo you have any problem with sharing their names with us?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=1392.0,1399.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nI don't think that they would mind, Emrys and Amid, Hamidi, are their names. They're no longer in Charleston. I made the decision to stay in Charleston and support those efforts. I'm big on confirmations and just kind of paying attention to different connecting points and signs and things like that. I'm kind of one of those people. So it just felt like it was what we were supposed to do. I was homeschooling my son. It wasn't really what I planned, but the need was presenting itself. And then there became a greater need to actually serve the Baha'i Institute. And they wanted me to go through some training and then find youth within various neighborhoods or in the community who were interested in starting junior youth groups in their own neighborhoods. I did some of that work as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=1399.0,1469.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAnd what is it that, that this Baha'i recruitment was supposed to achieve?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=1469.0,1475.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nWell, it's not recruiting people or converting people to be Baha'i. It's really creating a space for people to come together. A big thing is service, so community service. And so it's service that the junior youth and the youth decide they'd like to do in their community. And it's just really about creating this space for their gifts and their talents to come out as well. We would create music, but a lot of it is really serving. It's serving your community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=1475.0,1524.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nMm-hmm. So you're here at some really very dynamic times. Let's get into what begins to happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=1524.0,1534.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nSo I'm with Moya at his mom's and he's like, “I have this conference call.\" And he gets on the conference call. I'm pretty sure Brandon's on it. Trying to think who else was on it. Because I don't think I saw faces. So at that time, I'm not really sure who the people are because I hadn't met any of them. But they're organizing the, I think it was in solidarity with Million Man March, the Million Man... I forget, in D.C. But they're organizing the march that led into Black Lives Matter. And I was just kind of listening in and from there they planned the first meeting and I was like, \"I would like to be involved and support in any way that I can.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=1534.0,1592.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nSo from there, we organized the rally and the march and I'm just thinking back to just, we did it in a week, organized it in a week. And I think the turnout was, what, around three or four hundred people or something like that. It was really great to... I'm just a visitor, I wasn't from Charleston so I just was present and just felt so grateful to be able to be in position to meet so many people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=1592.0,1645.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nSo talk a little bit about what it takes to do that, to be able to pull out a few hundred people for a rally around various and sundry issues. So what's that like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=1645.0,1662.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nWell, I think everything, just everything moves so quickly. It's humbling, first of all. And it's a lot of work to... and especially in that short of a time period to get flyers created and pass flyers out all over town, get the word out as much as possible, attend any events that are happening so you can get the word out there and just making sure when you're organizing things, you just want to make sure that you're keeping everything in mind safety and the people who are coming, their safety, or our safety. And also you want people to also, the reasons we were coming together are very, very hard, heartbreaking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=1662.0,1741.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWhat were those organizing factors? What is it that is really driving all of this, what are the events or-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=1741.0,1753.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nPolice violence. It was Michael Brown and the police shootings that had been happening in Charleston, the local. So bringing people together around that is something you don't want to have to do, right? But you're doing it. Also you want to provide... I remember being so intentional and I felt like I was just present. I wasn't doing a lot of the... I was planning and organizing, but-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=1753.0,1822.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nStill, from behind, you mean? A little bit?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=1822.0,1825.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nYeah, yeah. And just paying close attention to what the needs were and things, but making sure that I'm just... I felt I was a visitor, you know? So just being mindful of that, but I appreciated that there was space for music and for dance, and for poetry, and spoken word, and singing. And that stood out for me, that importance of coming together and holding that space, that can be just really heavy, but also allowing the space for people to experience joy as well, because that's super important. And I just remember that being something that I still think about, that I still, I carry with me. It seems something that's so simple, but so often we're so involved that we forget to make sure that we're taking care of ourselves in that way and providing that space for other people as well. Does that make sense?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=1825.0,1916.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nOf course. What are your recollections about the reception from the Charleston community? You're, as you said, an outsider, you're not a Charlestonian, there are others coming in, including Muhiyidin, and others. What's the nature of this getting to know the locals?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=1916.0,1944.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nMm-hmm. Well, I understood and recognized the distrust just in general that people had, right? And understandably so. The the experience and what the dynamics between the white people in the Charleston area and Black people creates this distrust, right? Because of what white people have done and continue to do. I was just mindful of being present, but not taking up too much space. And I don't know that I was always good at that, but just continuing to just show up and there were times where I showed up and my presence made people uncomfortable. And a lot of times I was showing up with my son to give him opportunities too. So we would go to different events and things like that. And I wanted him to – wanted to provide these opportunities for him, but I was always very mindful of how my presence would make people feel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=1944.0,2047.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nAnd so, just continued to show up and tried to listen as much as possible and just do what I was being asked, ask how I could be of support and then, and do those things and continue to show up and continue to meet with people and build relationships. That was the biggest thing it was and the more... I'm sure on the weekends, there were days where we were out from eight in the morning, till 10 o'clock at night jumping from event to event, to event, to event, to meet people and find out what the needs were and what people... What the need was. And Moya was really good at that. We would oftentimes go together, but we would also oftentimes kind of split events up and do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=2047.0,2125.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nBut typically I was going, knowing people, some people there and whatnot, and just supporting, and just supporting and serving in whatever ways were needed. But it – you know, I didn't take it lightly, I didn't go into places just assuming that, A: I was wanted or needed. I don't think I really was needed, necessarily. And I'm grateful for all the... there's so many relationships that I have so many friendships that I have gained and that continue, I continue to have. I just feel very grateful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=2125.0,2188.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nMm-hmm. What do you think the biggest takeaways are from those times, those activities, all of that energy that was being expended? How would you define the biggest takeaways?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=2188.0,2211.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nThe first thing that comes to mind is the importance of community building, the importance of community coming together and creating out of our needs and whatever, and that need varies from community to community, in some ways. And in some ways I think across the board, there's different things that are happening in the world or in this country that people are experiencing. And so that's one of the biggest things, is just the importance of coming together as community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=2211.0,2249.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nDo you feel as if your efforts, yours and the others that you're working with, do you feel that's a lesson that was shared and adopted in the Charleston community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=2249.0,2269.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nOh, no. I mean, I think it's something that has been happening or, I think, it's always been happening. I think... what was your question? The biggest takeaway?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=2269.0,2292.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWell, I had said about what you thought, I guess, I'm just asking whether you have a sense of any enduring impact that those activities may have had on this community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=2292.0,2327.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nIt's maybe a little challenging for my answer, because I left in 2015, August of 2015, and I've only been witnessing basically through Facebook and through conversations with my friends who are still, who live there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=2327.0,2343.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nOkay. That's fair.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=2343.0,2346.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nAnd also, I don’t - yeah, I would be making assumptions that I just don't feel comfortable making. I think that there's been so much that was happening before. And I see certain people who I organized with doing these amazing things that, again, I would be assuming that it came out of that work, but potentially some of it did. But I think, in general, what I've witnessed is just how empowering it can be to be involved in work where you're standing up for yourselves when there's injustice doing the work to force the system so that there is justice or creating the changes that need to be happen on a policy level, raising awareness within the various communities. And in the various ways, depending on the community that you're speaking to or referring to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=2346.0,2442.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAgain, I'd wonder if you can reflect on, again, lessons learned, if you will. Can you point to initiatives or activities that you wish maybe had gone differently or that those interactions might have gone differently? I'm just wondering what you remember about this effort to bring community together. I'm sure it wasn't, as you said, easy and not always successful, but help us understand what are some of the tensions, what were some of the challenges of getting people to feel empowered?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=2442.0,2496.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nMm-hmm. I think anytime you're bringing people together, we have our differences and ideas and how something should be done or can be done. And it's not just Charleston, as I've done some organizing in Minnesota, in Oregon, and in South Carolina, across the board when you bring people together we have our differences, there starts to kind of be this infighting and that can, it kind of stalls the work, it can. It's also, I think, depending on the people who are present, it can be also powerful, right? If you're willing to work through these differences, there's a lot of learning that can happen with that. But I think that was...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=2496.0,2562.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nAnd also there were a lot of people that came who weren't from Charleston kind of in groups. And I remember, and I wasn't from Charleston, so I kind of just was present and paying attention to it, but that maybe were inserting their ideas about how things should work and these things. And I remember that causing some tension as well. Alongside, there was a lot of things that I think a lot of perspective, people from Ferguson came and specifically after Walter Scott was murdered and they did some cop watch trainings and things like that, that felt powerful and important. There was good as well, but I remember that being something that was talked about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=2562.0,2630.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWe understand that you were one of a number of people who promoted North Charleston to make some specific policy changes, do an audit of its practices and everything. Any thoughts about that and how successful you thought that might have been?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=2630.0,2655.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nWell, North Charleston, speaking on the government level very... And I don't think it's just North Charleston, very stuck in their ways. Not willing to budge much. So, I don't know how successful it was. I know the efforts that were put into it, there was a lot of effort, a lot of effort put into it. And I remember sitting in those meetings and coming up with, you know, the - what we wanted. And I think the biggest, I remember community oversight with subpoena power. I remember that being one thing when people were like, “Why are you asking for that? You're never going to get it.\" And I don't know that we believed that we would, but I think even just having these focal points and these things that we're asking for, I think it's even just doing that as opening up people's minds, that there is something else. You know what I mean? I think that when we grow up, we're raised a certain way, what we're raised in and what we grow up around, it's like sometimes I think we get... it can be hard to imagine something else...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=2655.0,2770.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\n...that we’ve not seen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=2770.0,2771.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nExactly, exactly. And one of those things that we're fighting against are so deeply rooted in the history and in the people's minds talking about people who are making the decisions and the policies and holding them. I lost my train of my train of thought, where I was going with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=2771.0,2806.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWell, you were saying that just the asking for these things had a value to it, even if not achieved. I'm going to something, as we begin to draw to a close, but the idea of in the tragic loss of Muhiyidin and the circumstances with which he died, I'm curious as to whether you had a sense that this could have happened to him in Charleston, or to anybody else like him who was taking that kind of public stance?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=2806.0,2849.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nMm-hmm. Most definitely. I think Moya and I, we had been talking pretty much every late night for, I don't know how long before - up until he was murdered. And I could tell that he had some concerns, and I had some concerns and some intuitions about some things. I think when the system is... they were forced to give Michael Slager 20 years, which seems to be the most, I don't know, maybe not, but the most that a police officer has received in a police-involved shooting. And as history shows, somebody pays that price so often.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=2849.0,2940.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nYou think in some ways, those who consider themselves to be activists need to be aware that-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=2940.0,2950.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nYeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=2950.0,2951.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nThis is... Go ahead. I'm sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=2951.0,2954.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nIt’s not a game. It's not a game. I think, all throughout history they are murdering people or locking people up and I think they do these things to shut us up. And it's here in Eugene last year after, or hasn't, how many years has it been? But was that last year or two years ago with George Floyd?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=2954.0,3007.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JOSHUA\n\nI think 2020.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=3007.0,3009.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nIt's two years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=3009.0,3011.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nThe pandemic kind of-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=3011.0,3013.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nI know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=3013.0,3014.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\n... messes up my timeframe, but not Eugene, but Springfield, the next town over is Springfield, Eugene, it's like North Charleston and Charleston. The police beat up organizers as they were protesting, and protecting the white supremacists at the same time. And I just was reflecting on that. And I was like, wow, the work as it had been prior to that had nearly stopped and they do that intentionally so that people do, people get scared and they do quiet down and they do... The work doesn't necessarily stop completely, but the way in which it looks often does, which is disheartening that they use that power to do that, to silence us. And I think about it often with Moya because I was right there with him. We went out one night and he opened up our messages, Black Lives Matter messages and saw the still frame that Feidin had sent him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=3014.0,3107.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nAnd then we discussed how we were going to handle just he and I, the situation. And, he and I brought the video to the family with Feidin and watched the Scott family watch the video for the first time. And then they asked us, we hadn't watched it yet and asked us if we wanted to watch it. We didn't want to, but we did. I think about that often just...as it's connected to his death. I think it was not everybody feels the same way about his death and you know, what that was about or why. But I think there are a group of us who think that it was definitely connected.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=3107.0,3196.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWe don't know for sure, Shanalea, where these words will rest in the future. You're a part of a project that is going to be archived right now here at the Avery Research Center. And I think that's one of the best things about it - that we don't know who in the future will be looking at people like you and all the others who stepped out and got involved at this critical time. Is there anything that you would say to somebody listening to you five years, 10 years from now? What is it that you want to make sure they understand about somebody like you and your convictions in getting involved in this kind of activism?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=3196.0,3260.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nMm-hmm. Well, as someone who started – you know, it started then, but then there were a few things after that kind of contributed more to it - someone who is just coming out of burnout that it's important to hold strong to convictions and do what you can to influence change in the world. And I think it's important to really reflect on and recognize your strengths and what it is you can offer or you have to offer. And then also what it is, you are able to, what it is that you are able to give and take care of yourself in that process? But also know that every action that we take has a ripple effect. So we might not know how what we're doing is affecting the greater whole. And sometimes we think, is it doing any good?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=3260.0,3341.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nBecause things kind of can move slowly. And even when they're moving more quickly, sometimes it's kind of chaotic; you're in crisis mode. And that's what we were doing, is moving through just this, like, sense of crisis and urgency. And, and just to, even in that, remember to recognize what your needs are, and also the people around you and encourage and hold space for self-care and community care because it's not, “we do this thing and then everything's going to be okay”, right? It's a lifelong journey, so it's important to take care of yourself while you're doing that work, but hold true and stay true to yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=3341.0,3412.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nYou're going to have people who question you and doubt you and question your motives and say all the things about you. But I think it's important to just keep on showing up as you, and doing...holding onto your truth. And I think that, feel like that's been the thing that has helped me the most in those moments where they get really challenging. But we are - everything that we do towards that movement, that greater work makes a difference. And then also within that, recognizing we're going to make mistakes and it's important, also, to own those mistakes and make amends and do better. We know better, we do better.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=3412.0,3478.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nAnd know that none of us are perfect. We're all learning. We all come from different life experiences. And we all have things to learn about one another's life experiences. We don't know it all. And that's okay. Life is full of lessons and learning, but humble yourself. And remember, we're always the teacher and the student, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=3478.0,3511.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nSimultaneously.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=3511.0,3515.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nYes, exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=3515.0,3517.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nShanalea, thank you so much. We appreciate you being part of our project. We think it's important to have your voice and we really appreciate it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=3517.0,3527.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nI really appreciate it. And I feel honored, and it's so nice to see you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=3527.0,3531.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nGood to see you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=3531.0,3532.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nNice to meet you, Joshua.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=3532.0,3533.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JOSHUA\n\nLikewise, likewise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=3533.0,3535.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nYeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=3535.0,3536.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JOSHUA\n\nAll right. So I'm going to stop the recording right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=3536.0,3539.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nOkay. Please take care of yourself and let us hear from you sometime.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=3539.0,3543.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010/transcript/93095/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SHANALEA FORREST\n\nOkay. Sounds good. Thanks so much. Take care. All right. Bye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169430/file/308010#t=3543.0,3549.5"}]}]}]}