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We're really glad to be back talking with you. You shared a lot of things that make us even more curious about you, but especially we know that you came to the table when the city was really up and getting a lot of attention nationally and everything, but you're somebody that was already on the scene. And I don't want to be the one to say when you think you started your activism; where do you see yourself coming on into this public sphere?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=4.0,55.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nAs far as activism goes?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=55.0,57.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nYeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=57.0,58.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nI remember this day like it was yesterday. When I really, I guess, started my activism journey is when I was 17, I think I was fresh out of high school. And I came across this book by Assata Shakur, and from then it really just opened my eyes, because it's like the school system in Charleston, like I explained in part 2 is trash, to be honest. They don't teach us anything about, like our true history; it’s from, like, just a European perspective. And as we know, if only one side tells the story, then you'll only going to get their version of what happened. So, after I read the Assata Shakur book, it really opened my eyes to the issues that still exist - not even just within Charleston, but globally. It really - I feel like that was when my awakening happened; it, like, raised my consciousness to a different level and I wanted to be in more spaces like that to see, how can we really make things really equitable and fair for everybody?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=58.0,114.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nBecause when I looked around, I looked at that and I really, like, analyzed what was going on. What are really the root causes of all - we talk about food insecurity, we talk about poverty, we talk about the criminal justice system, you know, but what is really the root cause of that? And how can we really create change? That's when I started just organizing with like-minded folks who was either getting on that level or they was already on that level too, to really spread our message and movement. And that's also at the time when, you know, I just dived into, as soon as I went to college, I dive into anything related to Black history, especially in Charleston.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=114.0,149.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nSo, I learned about Denmark Vesey, and even I feel like that lit a fire, you know, that was already inside of me - because even in elementary school I remember asking my teachers questions about lynchings – like, I would just research stuff and I would come across it. And of course, nobody would really answer me. So, when I read stories of Denmark Vesey and how he, you know, organized the slave revolt and the Stono Rebellion, or even just the Gullah Wars as a whole, it really switched something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=149.0,176.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nBecause again, in school they made it seem like my ancestors didn't resist to slavery. Like they just were singing, they were just as happy and jolly as can be, when that’s - when it wasn't true at all. That was a complete lie. There were constantly rebellions and, you know, resistance. I feel like to me personally, just from reading all those documents, I feel like slavery ended because of my ancestors fighting back. If it wasn't for the Gullah Wars, which influenced Abraham Lincoln - so that's why he abolished slavery in the rebellious states, because they were fighting back. So that just sparked a movement within myself too, and to organize with other people. Like, everybody really needs to be just like how in the Stono Rebellion it was marching in the streets, banging on a drum, screaming “Liberty!” Like, that's the level that we need to be on, because things are still not equal. There's still no justice when you can be gunned down in the street, unarmed, and the police don't face any consequences. You know? Even like with the Stand Your - the so-called “Stand Your Ground” case with Trayvon Martin, you know? A grown man can kill a kid and there's no consequences? That's not justice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=176.0,247.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWho did you turn to then? You're all fired up, you're reading, you're doing this on your own, but when you said you wanted to be in spaces with other people, who were those first other people that you turned to that you could find some solidarity with?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=247.0,264.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nSo, I was a part of a couple different groups, honestly. I believe, I think the first one I was a part of, it was - I don't even remember the name - but they had something at my college, but it wasn't really, I didn't feel like ... I was welcome, but I didn't really feel like it spoke my language, because for me, I grew up in the hood. And I guess a lot of people in that space, you know, they were privileged enough to not have to experience that. And so, I feel like if you don't experience that, you look at people from those circumstances in a different way. But to me that's where a lot of the rebellion spirit is at. Like, so you can't just cross them off or not even reach them on their level, because they need justice too, just as anybody else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=264.0,310.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nSo I was a part of that group, but not too much. Because then honestly, everything I do is I want to lift up my people as I climb up out of that. I felt like just I was raised and born in poverty didn't mean I had a poverty mindset, so I wanted to raise my people up as well. So, I left those spaces and I entered another space, which I want to say I forgot the name of it, forgive me, Marcus Garvey. But they made a model of what Marcus Garvey created with his organization, which was about self-determination. You know, it was one of his quotes that I love, and he was like, \"Where is our government? Where are our institutions? I don't see one, so I'm going to create my own.\" And kind of that's like what this organization did. The U-M-P-I-A [UNIA], I believe. I could be mixing up the words, but that's what it was for - because you know Marcus Garvey, he had the Black Doll Factory - just really all about self-determination and really instilling that pride into, you know, people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=310.0,366.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nBecause, especially, I can imagine, even today we still have issues of colorism and everything that separate us, so I can imagine it back then. So, his campaign was to make sure Black people felt loved. And especially with his message - \"One God! One aim! One destiny!” - and also just showing images of a Black God, because I guess at that time a lot of people were still worshiping, you know, like an image of a white Christ. And that does something to the consciousness, and people can argue that, but I feel like that does something, if you're Black and you're worshiping an image of God that does not look like you, even though the Bible says God is made in your image.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=366.0,399.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nBut yeah, I went in those spaces, and that was good. It also, like, it fueled my fire, and my position within that organization, I was over health and wellness, which, guess I'm not surprised I'm in that space now, because I always just felt like what we eat - and just knowing me, as Gullah Geechee people, we have a certain relationship with the land, you  know? We're connected with everything, and food is medicine. So, I was in that spaces, and within that, the focus is primarily on, I feel like knowledge-building, raising people awareness of our history. And coaching being, like, trying to be independent. But I left that space, because it was male-dominated. And within that I felt like my voice wasn't heard. And also, I was the youngest one of the group, so that was another issue. You know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=399.0,451.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nAt least for me personally, I felt like... And also, I felt like, because again, I don't know why, but I feel like people don't think a lot of ideas and stuff comes from the hood, but there's so much beauty inside those spaces, you know? And I feel like the hood isn't bad. The environment of which, the ghetto, that was created by this country is bad, and people never wanted to do things in there. And my thing was, if we want to really create a successful sustainable community or organization, we have to go inside these communities, by one: giving back. We got to build that trust.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=451.0,488.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nSo, I was out there giving out food. I did multiple food drives within the organization, giving out clothes and just, you know, just meeting people where they at, like, helping them with their needs. But like I said, some organizations just didn't see that as important, so I ended up leaving that space. And that's when I want to say Charleston was, like, on the forefront, because we had the Walter Scott situation where the police killed him, and that was captured on video. We also had, I explained in the part, the first interview, with the Denzel Curnell, which, that wasn't made national, but that already had a lot of us on edge-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=488.0,526.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAnd I'd like you to just kind of unpack that for us a little bit, because that's different from learning Black history, that's different from passing out food. Here is this tragedy that occurs with the killing of Denzel Curnell. Can you, kind of, tell us about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=526.0,551.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nThat really - I mean, even to this day, because there was no justice in that situation - I feel like they closed it and said he killed himself, which just the math wasn't adding up in that situation. And I feel like that was extremely traumatic for the whole community. Because I feel like that kind of just showed us that the police can do what they want. They can kill you and get away with it, and your age doesn't - your age, none of that, what you do - because he just came back home from, I believe it was AIT training. You know, he just went to the military. And so when that happened.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=551.0,587.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nAnd to me that was also the last straw. I feel like for me, that's when I met up with Muhiydin and other members of what eventually became Black Lives Matter Charleston. You know, we all was underneath the bridge. Matter of fact, I called him my brother, Chris, his mom was out there as well. It was just, we were just like, \"Hey, we're tired of what's going on in Charleston. Let's do something.\" And I believe it was even raining that day. We all was at Riverfront Park underneath the pavilion, and we were just unpacking everything. Like, \"This is what's happening, and we need to – like, what can we do to really change things?\" And it was like, a lot of different people of different races out there from community. And we were just expressing our frustration with what was going on in Charleston.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=587.0,629.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nBecause I mean, even though that made headlines locally, but the police been killing Black folk in Charleston. There's been racism in Charleston. So, there was nothing new. But I feel like that provided a safe space for us to finally unpack that trauma and really talk about it. Because I feel like a lot of times that happens, but we're not even allowed to express our frustration or to be like, \"We don't like that.\" Which is why we see now people get upset when you say, “Black lives matter.” It's like, \"How dare you even say that from your mouth?\" So, I feel like at that point, that's when I really was like, \"Okay, yeah, I'm serious about creating change in the city, because this – this shouldn't happen to anybody else's child.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=629.0,677.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nTell us how that energy gets formalized. You know, you said, you're out there, you're talking with other neighborhood people. Help us understand what's different this time, you know? What happens differently?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=677.0,702.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nSo, as we build – as we built from that, we ended up making flyers. We had Denzel Curnell, his face was on it, because I feel like when you focus your attention on something, you know, it grows, be it bad or good. So, we really was hitting the streets, and I finally connected. And that's why I really felt like a community, like a home with Black Lives Matter Charleston, because we wasn't scared to go in the hood. That's one of our biggest things. We went up in there, we was like, \"Okay, this is what it is. We see what's happening,” you know? And I feel like also people use that to an advantage. They know, \"Okay, you're from the hood, you may not be educated, so I'm not going to listen to you.\" And so, we let them know, this is, \"We're here, we'll listen to you, and this is what we're doing.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=702.0,742.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nWe went there, passed out flyers, let people know we're organizing at this spot, we're protesting. Like, we went to the school board meetings plenty of times; even now, I think - there's a protest happening at this school board meeting now. But we went there, we went to the city hall, just, like, all the steps. We just wanted to make noise and let them know, \"We don't like oppression, we don't like racism, and this needs to end.\" So, we just made as much noise as possible. Even as far as with a drum. Like, Muhiyidin was - no, he had a drum. I think even in one of the school board meetings he was beating on the drums, just to create that noise and let them know this is the energy that we're bringing to this space as a response to racism. Because I feel like racism is allowed to keep living and thriving, because people don't want to talk about it and people don't want to challenge it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=742.0,795.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAnd I'm going to press you a little bit on this - what are you defining as your hood? You know, tell us, what-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=795.0,804.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nSo, to me, my hood is really North Charleston. I grew up – and my mom’s from - well, she was on Section 8, so throughout my whole childhood we lived in different neighborhoods, be it apartments, sometime community housing with other people who-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=804.0,820.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nLiberty Hill, Days Hill?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=820.0,822.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nNot - Dorchester Road mainly. So I lived at - what was in the neighborhood? Some apartments across the street from Goodwin Elementary. I lived on the Macon, I lived on the Wayland. And, like, moved around a lot, so it wasn't like - I didn't have one central neighborhood that I grew up in, which is why I know a lot of these neighborhoods, because I was like, living in a couple different of them. And also, like I said, I think I mentioned that in my other interview that was also ended up in foster care. So I also ended up on Azalea at Jenkins Institute for a while as well. But my main base was North Charleston. So, all those areas around there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=822.0,860.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWere you hearing from people that they had given up on the possibility of change? That they were ready to take on a new kind of a movement? What were you met with, when you and a few others go out there with your flyers?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=860.0,887.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nSo, for - I feel like it was mixed, but for the most part the people who understood what we were doing, they kind of just fell in line. Like, even when we did marches, we would be banging on a drum, screaming, “Death to white supremacy! This is what it is!” They're joining in on us, especially the kids. And of course, you had some people who was like, \"Oh, racism is over,\" all this. I was like, \"Oh, y'all just being disruptive.\" It was a couple folks who didn't like it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=887.0,911.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nUnpack that for us now. Who are those voices that are telling you you're being disruptive?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=911.0,919.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nMainly, and even though I love my elders, but it was a couple of people in the older generation, they were just like, \"Oh, y'all being disruptive. This is not the way to go about it.\" Really trying to tell us to calm down. And I'm like, \"People are literally dying, like blood in the street right now. You're telling us to just be calm? You should be out here with us. Like, no.\" So...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=919.0,940.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWe have several \"civil rights organizations\" that were operating and still operate in North Charleston as well as in Charleston. What was their response to Denzel Curnell's death?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=940.0,957.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nHonestly, they probably made a statement, I think. I honestly don't remember. I know I was really frustrated, because I feel like a lot of these big, known, organizations, they only come out when the cameras come out, but it's like when we're really in the field with these families are really collecting stories and really trying to help people, they're nowhere to be found. So, maybe I just missed it, and missed it because I wasn't looking for them, because they didn't show up. I feel like I really remember the ones, the organizations that actually showed up and was there and present, really building with the community. I'm pretty sure they made a statement, I'm guaranteed they made a statement, some of these organizations, but I just don't recall them making any one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=957.0,1000.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nI feel like mainly it was the grassroots organization. Because there was a couple of them, even it was an interracial - I forgot the name of it though – they came out, because I want to say we even did something - it was downtown. I don't know if that was across from the police station, but it was where they usually have the Reggae Fest downtown - we were in that spot and did a conference and stuff out there too, where just opening the floor and let people kind of unpack. Which was needed, because I mean, people broke out singing about, I guess that's what we do. You need some type of way to really let go of that stress and trauma and really let people know that this is not okay, you know? That's not okay what happened.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1000.0,1045.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nSo, talk then from that moment of, \"We just can't ignore this anymore.\" How does that spill off into the creation of a Black Lives Matter? Is this the same as the National Black Lives Matter? AKUA PAGE\n\nSo...I can be as a hundred as I can with this interview?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1045.0,1063.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nSo...I can be as a hundred as I can with this interview?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1063.0,1063.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nSo...I can be as a hundred as I can with this interview? MILLICENT BROWN\n\nOf course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1063.0,1066.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nOkay, so about that. Like I said, we got, and I don't know what chain of events really jumped it off with other people, but it was some other – like, Black groups from outside of Charleston. And we all - is it ILA [International Longshoremen's Association] Hall? One of the places downtown - we met there plenty of times, but we started just really setting up public meetings, and like I said, whoever showed up, they showed up, and this is what it is. And we started, like, really: \"Okay, this is, these are the core strategies.\" Literally we had a map out on some Underground Railroad, “We're going to hit these areas.” We hit it out, and we put people in, you know, positions that they wanted to be in, and this is what we're going to build off of, because these are the issues. We even came up with a list of demands in response to police brutality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1066.0,1114.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nLike I said, because you know, we tried to sit down and stuff with other orgs, and especially the Black Lives Matter Charleston. But from my understanding with that one, they didn't support Black Lives Matter Charleston, the national one. From my understanding, they wanted, because the Black Lives Matter Charleston, even though it was founded by high school kids, they created that hashtag, but it was like, I guess monetized by three Black women, which salute them, though, for doing that. And I believe they are three Black women who are queer. And from my understanding they wanted queer representation of the group, which totally understand. But at the time in Black Lives Matter Charleston, our leader just happened to be a male. You know, it wasn't that we were opposed to having – especially, like, I'm a Black woman, we had other Black women and other people who had sexual orientations, like, we're all for liberation. But we just so happened to have the leader, that's who it is at the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1114.0,1174.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWho was that leader?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1174.0,1175.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nThe leader was Muhiyidin d'Baha, rest in peace to him. And I guess they wasn't really feeling that. They was like, \"Well no, y'all need to find one.\" But it's like we can't force people to be in that role. And my thing is, if the goal is liberation, you know, let's just focus on that. Why are you so caught up on who's ... Because like I say, he didn't even that title, because we all were leaders of the thing. But he was the main one and it was, but yeah, so that's also why we named our chapter Black Lives Matter Charleston, because they wasn't rocking with us.\n\nAnd to be honest, we wasn't really rocking with them, because it just seemed like, \"Are you really for Black liberation or are you just trying to, you know, look a certain way?” You know, like, “What angle are you really going with it?\" So, to me, I guess I feel like we have the same goals, but the way we go about it - and it's one thing that you know, in Gullah Geechee culture - is “e mo den one way to skin a cat”. So, we went our own way of “skinning the cat” to a Black liberation, and they went their own way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1175.0,1236.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nTalk about your way of skinning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1236.0,1240.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nOkay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1240.0,1241.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAnd I say “your”; I don't mean you just personally. Help us to know what the strategies were and how it is you saw yourself building a stronger locally-based movement?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1241.0,1259.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nOur biggest strategy was,number one, organizing. Because you can't do nothing - if your organization group is disorganized, everything you put on is going to be disorganized as well. We met up at different barbershops who allowed us to have meetings in their barbershops, hair salons, clubs, different event spaces that we could just have these meetings, I guess like I said, these organizing meetings. Which was good, because in some of these meetings things even got kind of hectic, which is also like, \"Well, y'all said I can just be completely free.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1259.0,1292.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nBecause it was beautiful, like I said, it was an interracial group, especially at first, because especially you have people, you know have white moms who have Black children that needs to be aware of what your child may go through. We had a couple different, like, faces in there, but the biggest issue was that it would come at a certain time where we just needed to organize amongst us. Because it's certain things, like if it pertains to what Black people need, we don't need anybody that's not Black in there. You know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1292.0,1322.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nBecause to me, and I call it the slave mentality, how you feel you still need ownership and control over what we think is better for our community. And who can tell us what's better than us who actually live in ... We live in this skin, we know our issues and concerns. But that used to be a huge issue with a lot of people. They're just like, \"Oh no, because I was in the beginning of founding this thing,\" which is great, but if you really call yourself an ally, then you understand there's certain spaces where you just cannot be a part of. And I feel like that kind of caused, I guess, a rift between certain groups within the organization. But I also feel like it was necessary to happen, so we can kind of, kind of have people who don't really understand what's necessary for true Black liberation. Because again, you're not really for Black liberation if you still want to be an overseer over what we're doing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1322.0,1375.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWhat about when the organization becomes basically all Black? What helped coalesce that group?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1375.0,1388.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nWhat helped that is honestly continue on with the organizing at different locations where we can organize and strategize and be setting up, like be it be us going downtown, like I said, we organizing like, \"Hey, we're just going to go downtown. We're just going to be disruptive.\" We did one at the Daughters of Confederacy, it was a couple, I forgot who all was speaking out there, but we just out there letting them know, “Death to white supremacy,” especially on the statues of the Daughter of Confederacy, you know? This is who, like - we out here, descendants of the Africans who fought back, and this is what we're standing on. We had the flags raised up that we were representing like, \"This is what we're doing.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1388.0,1429.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nIt really became... Like, we were active before, but I felt like we were focused and then we didn't have ... Because we also had people that were like, \"Well, should you really do that?\" Especially with the whole when it comes to the American flag, because with that situation, for me, even though yes, I was born in America, but I didn't have no choice in that. My people were forced to come here. It was a forced migration. It wasn't like we willingly hopped on a boat. So, it was like, I have, I guess you can say, like, a two-conscious, when it comes to the American flag. Yes, I'm here. Yes, my ancestors built this country, but I also don't feel that love of being an American. To be honest, we even burnt the American flag at one point. And that-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1429.0,1479.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nYou were there when that incident happened?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1479.0,1482.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nYes, I was. MILLICENT BROWN\n\nCan you talk about that a little bit?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1482.0,1483.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nCan you talk about that a little bit?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1483.0,1483.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nCan you talk about that a little bit? AKUA PAGE\n\nYes, I actually love that story. We were actually at, I want to say by the Calhoun statue, and if you know Calhoun, he's the father of, I call him the father of white supremacy. But, you know, we were out there and I want to say - I don't know if that was directly after we did the Death to White Supremacy or Bury White Supremacy march, but we were out there, and we all... Tensions were high. I'm not sure, I knew we was protesting something, but tensions were high. We were out there, the police were out there, and we all were just like, \"You know what?\" - can I curse? No, keep it clean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1483.0,1515.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nYou can say anything you want.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1515.0,1517.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nOkay, okay, okay. We was like, \"Honestly, y'all,\" like, \"Fuck America, fuck this flag, fuck John C. Calhoun.\" And so, we had the flag. We were like, \"All right, what's better way than to say ‘fuck something’ than to burn it?\" You know, we learned from America, all the burnings of the churches, you know, we learned from the best. So, we burnt the flag. And of course, that's when the police tried to come in. And that's to say it was so beautiful, and it wasn't just Black folk, you had Black and white folks. We all linked in, locked arms, so they couldn't disrupt what we were doing. And that's when that happened. And to me it was just such a beautiful moment, because that also allowed, especially with the white allies, because I felt like that's also why they wasn't able to really... I feel like if they weren't there, the police would have been more forceful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1517.0,1562.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nBut it worked out, because we all just locked arms and we followed them until, you know, they were successfully able to burn the American flag. And to me, burning of that was also like the burning of white supremacy. Because the way I feel it? How people feel about the Confederate flag, I feel the same about the American flag. That's the flag that colonized, stole, raped, pillaged, you know, the Native Americans and the enslaved Africans. It's like, \"Why should I care about that flag?\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1562.0,1588.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWhat was the feedback or the pushback, actually?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1588.0,1591.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nAnd that's also I feel like where we got, like... It was mixed. Of course, like I said, I love my oldest, but a lot of them, they were mad. They were pissed. They was like, \"Oh, y'all youngins so disruptive. This ain't what MLK died for.\" I'm just like, \"He died for freedom and right now I don't-” like, what are y'all doing? And he wasn't, he just didn't die, he was killed. It was, again, I was saying, \"Y'all should be with us with what we're standing on. Because it's like there's no justice right now.\" And again, we did those things intentionally so we can make noise and let people know we are tired of the oppression in this city, in this country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1591.0,1630.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nAnd so, like I said, the feedback was mixed. We had a couple of people, \"Oh, y'all going to make things worse, this and that. This ain't the right way.\" And then you had a couple of people like, \"Yeah, yeah, I'm with that. I'm with that, you know, yeah!\" It was 50/50, but it also brought in more people involved into the group, which was good. Because you know the biggest thing was creating awareness and letting them know, \"We're here, we're not scared of y'all.\" And also, I feel letting them know that, \"We're not scared of y'all. Y'all not going to continue to have y'all knee on our neck and act like we not going to get up,” you know? And that's really what I feel like we were doing was letting them know, \"This foot of oppression, this of oppression. We're not going to just sit there and y'all just treat us any kind of way.\" You know, so...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1630.0,1681.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nYou are a poet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1681.0,1685.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nYeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1685.0,1686.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWere you introducing the arts or artists, at this time, into your organization? Was there a role that they were playing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1686.0,1699.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nI guess when you say introducing, I call myself kind of like a goddess of social media. I know how the algorithm works, so I just post stuff and be like, \"Hey, we're doing this, if you do poetry,” because poetry is one way I like to express myself. We would just, they would come out and we would spit some poetry, make music. Because that was also, like, say, a way of – I feel like - relieving stress and also a level of expression. It was one event, I forgot the name of it. I want to say, was it Black Lives Matter? But I know it was the theme of it. And it was so beautiful, because it was different artists that came out. We had poets and we had actual-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1699.0,1737.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nCame out where?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1737.0,1739.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nI don't know the name of the building, but it was just a small building. It was off of Dorchester Road. Matter of fact, across the street from the Wayland. It was a small building. It was, we did our own art exhibit, and I loved it, because I did one of my poems, which I wasn't able to say my poem at ... I was at Trident Tech at the time, because they felt like, I guess, it was too charged. But I said it out there, and we had other people who they did some poetry centered around, you know, just activism and liberation. And especially the art, because we had artwork that, I think one that I remember vividly in my mind it was like of, I want to say a Black kid, hanging a KKK member. And I thought that was dope. It was some type of abstract art.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1739.0,1783.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nBut it was just all this art of this expression of ... I guess art, it expresses the time that we're in and our level of frustration. So yeah, I can't really think, I don't know what they call that space. It's different now. And we did a couple, I want to say a couple different ones like that, because it also gave people who I guess not comfortable with speaking publicly, it also gave them a platform to share their voice and opinions and concerns about what's going on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1783.0,1816.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWere you a part of SONG [Southerners on New Ground]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1816.0,1820.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nSONG...SONG? What is that? Is that a different organization?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1820.0,1822.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nYeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1822.0,1823.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nI could have been-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1823.0,1824.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nThe group that went down to the restaurants and disrupted people when they were eating.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1824.0,1833.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nI was in some of their meetings. But I remember that, because I was in the meeting process. I do remember that. But I didn't go to that one, and I loved that, yeah, because that was one of the organizing strategies where you just disrupt. Because you know, downtown is a big tourist attraction. That's where all the money and wealth and white folks are at, living comfortably. So yeah, we’re going to make y'all uncomfortable. They went into different restaurants and were saying the names of the men and women and children who were killed either by hands of police or just, like, white supremacy in general. But I don't know, was it SONG or was it SCORE? It was one of them. One of them-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1833.0,1872.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nThere was a group called SCORE as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1872.0,1876.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nSCORE not sure. I'm not sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1876.0,1880.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nBut the energy that you think that you were a part of helping to create is obviously spreading.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1880.0,1888.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nOh, definitely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1888.0,1889.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nYeah. Are there any other incidents or particular activities that you just really feel helped to ignite more members of the community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1889.0,1904.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nI felt activities that help unite more members of the community was our outreach and letting them know also, because I don't know who did – was it Malik Shabazz? It was somebody that came down. Even though that event was wild, it went left quick. But that space, like I said, we just allow people to share their frustrations or stories about, \"What is your experience in Charleston?\" I don't know. I think, what's it called, “the State of Black Charleston”? I can't remember the theme of it, but we had different people came out, even older women who expressed their concerns and their experience dealing with the police or just dealing with the system in general, like the housing situation, how these predatory landlords, like, how they just treat people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1904.0,1951.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nAnd to me that's just a result of really just that mentality of racism. How you got elderly people living in moldy homes, you know? And they can't do anything about it? So, we had that, and that brought in a lot of people. And again, it just allowed a safe space, even though it went left. Because, like I said, I think a lot of people don't realize the Black Panther was the blueprint, and there's so many movies, documentaries that lets you know, you can’t - you got to study that if you want to be in these spaces. So, you know, you had people who was there I feel like too caused disruption. And that's what happened. People were there causing disruption. We were putting on a beautiful event. Like I said, either we had people doing poetry, people speaking their mind, you know, people speak-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1951.0,1997.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nAnd then it would just turn into, sometimes the events would turn chaotic, and I'd be like, \"How did this happen?\" But it'll just be one person who would say something or create, \"Oh, you said such and such and such on social media, we out here now.\" And then that level of energy or...I feel like people love drama. So, it distracts and takes us away from why we're here in the first place. And again, I just feel like it goes back into people not really studying our ancestors of the past. Because they already, they showed us and told us, \"You got to watch out.\" Which is also why I always was, like, when I was a part of, that's why I left a lot of these groups, because I'm just like, \"Y'all wide open, y'all naked at this point. You got to have security. We can't just be just thinking that everybody that comes in just because they coming in with a smiling face that they mean us well.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=1997.0,2050.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nBecause even with the movie they put out with Fred Hampton, it was somebody from his own camp who was an opp. So, it's like, you got to, like – you can’t just be so trusting of everything, because then that will destroy what we are building. I feel like that's kind of what happened. Because like I said, we were able, like, we had a strong hold, we had a good solid bit of people. We did plenty of stuff, especially at the Denmark Vesey statue. Bringing people out there who never even knew that statue existed, you know? Letting them know. You're like, \"Yeah, this is Denmark Vesey, he created this and this is what happened.” Or even at the, you know, honoring Philip Simmons, being at those parks, and uniting, like I said. Even just the people from -  the underdogs from the hood - and having them come out and letting them know, \"We're here, we see y'all, and here's - you take the mic.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2050.0,2096.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nBecause there was plenty of time there's random people. We'll be having an event just speaking about, \"Yo, we need to uplift each other, uplift ourselves. We need to build up some stuff. Let's put our minds, money, funds, whatever we got together.\" And it'd be random people like, \"Yeah, I'm with that.\" And giving them a platform so they can speak. And you can then see, I feel like, the stress leave a lot of people bodies, just by us even creating that space to be like, \"Here you go.\" But also, like I said, sometimes the place got a little crazy, because I don't know if it was, I feel like it was plants in there to just shift people focus. Because even at some points, like, fights broke out, not amongst us, but just different people coming in and then, you know, once the media sees that, they run with that story, \"Oh, Black Lives Matter Charleston rioting downtown.\" But they didn't show how we helped out, you know, these groups of people in the community, so...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2096.0,2155.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nDo you feel that the reaching into what you call the hood, into the community - do you see the results of that? Are there more young people that say, \"I remember you, you were on Marion Square or you were in Hampton Park.\" Or how do you see that energy playing out with those who may have been watching on the side for a long time, but kind of saw someone like you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2155.0,2198.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nRight, so, I see when I'm out and about - because when I was doing the work, I didn't really expect, because I didn't really feel like I played a large, large role. Like, I played a role, but I didn't think it made such a big impact, until years later. Then like you said, I'll have people like, \"Oh, I remember y'all did this.\" And they'll tell me the things that they learned. Like I mentioned in the beginning, Assata Shakur, reading her book opened my eyes. That started my awakening process. And so I always tell people, \"Start with that book.\" Because to me that changed my whole entire life. Like, I even – at the time I had perms, I had weave and she mentioned about, kind of piggybacking off of Malcolm X, \"Who taught you to hate yourself?\" I was like, \"Yeah, why am I covering up my hair? Let me see what my actual hair looks like,” you know? Made me appreciate the body that I'm in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2198.0,2249.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nJust by always being in my community and still seeing that, seeing how that touched people. And really, I feel like it gave them hope, because I think - not think, I know - also what slavery, racism, all this stuff does, it breaks your spirit. It makes you not think there is no hope. “You just have to just go along to get along, it is what it is,” type mentality, but it's really bringing that hope back into the people, and pride and letting them know, \"We can create change. It doesn't have to be this way.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2249.0,2280.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nEven if you're talking about the aftermath of not only Walter Scott, but of Emanuel-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2280.0,2289.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nYes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2289.0,2291.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\n...do you remember that people are talking across lines more - especially after Emanuel, you know -","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2291.0,2299.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nYeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2299.0,2300.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nIs there dialogue happening or are - even if people belong to different groups, are people beginning to find some common ground to stand on?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2300.0,2313.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nI feel like now, because with the Emanuel, and I'm not going to lie, this could be complete transparent, it pissed me off at first, the response. Because again, before that we did a march on the bridge for Walter Scott and all the people who died by hands of police brutality. They didn't like that, but soon as Emanuel, it was like, \"Oh, Charleston Strong.\" So, at first I was just like, \"Yeah, y'all don’t really mean that.\" But I think now I am starting to see people who are really sincere about it. Like, “Okay, we really do want to create change. We see the wrongdoings of my ancestors,” and it's like ... Because there'll be every time, like I said, we'll be out there either beating on the drums, or we're just speaking into a horn and like, this, you know talking about the issues that we are experiencing in Charleston, racism globally, and people will be coming out and start crying. Plenty of times white people came out and started crying, like, \"Oh, I'm so sorry, I'm so,” about what happened.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2313.0,2367.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nAnd of course, to be honest, that didn't really move me. But now I'm seeing these organizations are actually funding certain things. They want to give reparations, \"I'll fund this, I'll do this.\" Like, now, there's a church that I go to sometimes, it's called Two Rivers. They're like a predominantly white church that's organized against, you know, white supremacy. It's a whole church. I do feel like those seeds and stuff have been planted in Charleston, and I'm seeing that they are growing within different organizations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2367.0,2398.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nAnd even, I think I mentioned my last interview, even inside the schools now. Like at first, when I was mentioning about Gullah Geechee, linguistic discrimination, racism it was like, whatever. Now it's like I'm seeing even from the kids, they're like, \"Oh, Ms. Page, I learned about African-American Vernacular English. I'm bilingual.\" So seeing that, so I do feel like there is a shift happening, I guess I'll call it that. It's a shift happening in a lot of people consciousness now. And also, I feel like a lot of people understand, we can't make people - or just racism, it's an uncomfortable conversation for some, but it's like we have to make racists feel uncomfortable. And we have to have those uncomfortable conversations and we have to do the uncomfortable work so we can really get to the point that we're trying to get to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2398.0,2443.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nDo you have faith in the possibility of building a new organization? A “Black Lives”- and it could be called anything, but do you feel that that's the route to go in the future, that we build stronger organizations? Or how do you think these new conscious efforts should play out?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2443.0,2473.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nRight. So, you know what, in respect to Muhiyidin, probably not another Black Lives Matter organization. And then also just I feel like the name has kind of been tainted. But I do feel like there is opportunity for a new organization, especially since we have people – you know, I wouldn't consider myself an OG of it - but I'm experienced in activism. So, I feel like I know – like, I know what not to do, and I'm also the type of person I can learn from other people's experiences, which is why I love reading, like, autobiographies, be it Assata Shakur or Malcolm X. So I can see what they experienced, and what, \"Okay, so you did this and this happened. Let me make sure I watch out for all these things.\" I feel like there is an opportunity to grow another organization, because we already know what to do and what not to do and what to look out for. I feel like there is opportunity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2473.0,2523.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nAnd now there's also a call to action. I was just watching, I forgot, some show when they were talking about reparations, like, on the TV screen. I was like, \"Okay!\" Even though I wouldn't consider it “reparation”, I think in some town they gave a couple Black folks like $25,000 to go towards a house, which I mean to start in the right direction, but it's like I didn't think I would saw that at the time when I was out here doing my activism work. I feel like there is a lot more people too who are like, \"Hey, I want to be involved in these spaces, not just to talk, but I really want to create change.\" So, their children can either live a better life or just - even now, I feel like, currently - all us, you know, we can step outside our house, step outside our home, look on our phone and don't have to worry about, \"Okay, another person was shot dead in the street by the police.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2523.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAfter Emanuel, a lot of attention came to Charleston.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2580.0,2585.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nYes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2585.0,2587.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nCan you just maybe - and we're about to wrap this up, but - just how do you think that horror played out, versus what you and your colleagues were involved in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2587.0,2607.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nI think how it played out...I felt like that was an awakening for some. To me, I was already aware of what was happening, and, if anything, that just ... It was painful. It was extremely painful. Even to this day of talking about it, because it's like now, even walking past the church, I either walk fast, or I stop and just stare. That really happened. And especially how, I feel like, the police treated Dylann Roof, which is why I personally feel like that wasn't just him. It was like, he ain't been the...he wasn't the only one. But I feel like that also just created a shift for the city, and... It created a shift, and it also let people know that we still have a lot more work to do for all of us, because for him to be so young at 19 to go, and to... aAd they welcomed him, as we do, we're extremely welcoming to anybody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2607.0,2674.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nAnd for him to have sat with them for an whole entire hour and still put it in his mind to just kill all of them just because they were Black, you know? But yet, we live in a society where people act like, you know, racism is not that big of an issue, but yet it is. I feel like Emanuel, it started the awakening for some, and for us, I feel like it let us know that there's a lot of work that we need to do in this. And to me it's not even an option. Like, we have to do this. It's life or death at this point, literally, because it's like just being silent about it? Things like that will continue to happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2674.0,2717.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nDid you feel any kind of resentment that the national press was talking to the OGs, and the message about, \"We're going to get along,\" when you knew that you were in the streets doing some other kinds of organizing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2717.0,2740.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nRight. I didn't feel resentment. I felt more disappointed, because I'm like, \"Y'all had the platform, and instead of, I feel like just keeping it, like, keeping it one hundred, you just decided to go to the same old narrative.\" And I'm like, \"That's not what the people need, you know, that’s not.” That was a terrorist attack, you know? Flat out with that, that was a hate crime. And that happened in our generation. There is no “turn the other cheek” with that. And we can pray all day, but like Fannie said, \"If you don't pray with your feet, God not going to put it in your lap.\" Like, what are we praying for, with that situation? So, I felt like I was disappointed in a lot of the OGs that went on camera.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2740.0,2786.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nI mean, also that was also around the time where we were being way more vocal about, \"We don't like this.\" And they would truly, I feel like, trying to minimize our voice well. as if we weren't allowed to be angry, as if we should have just been passive about that terrorist attack. Like, he just went inside that church and killed all these Black folk, who were unarmed, that welcomed him. And you want us to be quiet? No, no. Like, maybe your ancestors was passive, but mine wasn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2786.0,2819.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nThank you. Cool.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2819.0,2820.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AKUA PAGE\n\nThank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2820.0,2821.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954/transcript/87837/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nI appreciate it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/164239/file/298954#t=2821.0,2823.5"}]}]}]}