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The name I was born with was Antonus Smith. That's A-N-T-O-N-U-S S-M-I-T-H. The name that I had changed Hadis Abdus Samad, H-A-D-I-S A-B-D-U-S S-A-M-A-D.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=8.0,53.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nCan you tell us what Hadis Abdus Samad means?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=53.0,56.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nIt means guidance and the servant of God.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=56.0,62.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nOkay. Do that again. Repeat that for me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=62.0,67.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nGuidance and the servant of God.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=67.0,73.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nOf God. ANTONUS SMITH\n\nOkay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=73.0,75.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nOkay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=75.0,75.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nOkay. MILLICENT BROWN\n\nOkay. And what is home for you when you say home? Where are you born?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=75.0,83.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nI was in a community, they called Grand Hill in the city, and I was born back in September, 1948.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=83.0,105.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAnd did you grow up on Grand Hill?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=105.0,107.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYes. I grew up on Grand Hill. Grand Hill was a steadfast community where nobody was hungry, no homeless, and everybody looked out for each other, and everybody raised each other kids.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=107.0,129.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nIt was an all-Black community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=129.0,131.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYes, all Black. And most of the job situation, ain't nobody was unemployed around there, because everybody had a job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=131.0,142.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nDoing what? What kind of jobs?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=142.0,144.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nThey had job doing baking, and they had a jobs working through the Navy yard. It was lot of carpentry, roofers, laundry people who do laundry and stuff that - and plus, you had people making Pepsi Cola. I raised up, well, my mother was the first woman to operate, a machine operator, at the Pepsi Cola plant that was located back in the '50s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=144.0,197.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nAnd I'd just go with my mother to this plant, and wash the bottles out and stuff because a lot of time they'd reserve the bottles and stuff, so we had to wash the bottles out, plus she would do the syrup and put in the machine, and we run the machine and stuff. And a lot of people didn't know at that time. And so, and plus doing that, we had a train track that run through the community, and most a lot of people who would unload the trains and stuff to [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=197.0,244.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"], and other place, like rice, a lot of grocery and stuff, meat packing company and stuff, all that was full employment. And the money would circulate in the community. You know? Everybody had money. Every summer allow us to go to relatives in New York, and Savannah, Georgia, Florida, and we had a connection down the whole East Coast as far as our community concerned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=244.0,298.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nSo, it wasn't just your family, you're saying?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=298.0,301.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nNo. We was like a big family. We had close to about 600 people around there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=301.0,312.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nIs Grand Hill still around?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=312.0,314.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nNo, but it's right where the shelter been at. It's right there where the shelter been, but then after the shelter moving in there ain’t nothing but one street there, and that’s A Street. Okay, most all the street, and Walnut Street, them the only two street that really left.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=314.0,338.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAnd any of those people that you grew up with still around living in that area?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=338.0,347.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah, my cousin, Cheryl. Cheryl...Cheryl Blake, who was married to the Reverend Blake. MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAlfonso?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=347.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAlfonso?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=360.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAlfonso? ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah. [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=360.0,364.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"] she still have estate, but most of the other people I know, they scatter all over, all over Charleston, and a lot of them moved away, but I see a lot of them coming back now that I know, that raised up with. But back then, we had... That was the thing. And that the community had knowledge. You had the elders speaking. You speak to the elders every day, and most of the time, I spend my childhood days speaking to the elders.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=364.0,415.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nTell us who some of those elders were.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=415.0,421.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nSome been, I think, you know, they had nicknames like Donkey and Digger Joe, and all that stuff, and Banky. These was the elders, and the elders, you sit down around, they'd be playing checkers. Then as you look, they'd send you to the stores to get something. Then, you earn two cents or a nickel, or something like this. That's how I used to make my money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=421.0,464.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nThe elders, you know? And I sit there and watch them play checkers. After a while, you learn how to play, see them, how they moved, and how they played checkers. So, I sit down and watch, plus they had a conversation for me all the time. All the time, they was schooling me, how to deal with people all the time, you know? And what I’d do, time I reached about 12, I’d been beating them, because as I sit down and study their moves and all, but by being with them, it was like they show me how to protect myself, how to get around, and how to deal with people, and how to deal with people is how they positioned me to teach me manners. That's how you get around to know people. That's your protection. The more people you know, the better your protection is if you going to become active, but most people that came around, they was active.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=464.0,548.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nTell us about that. When you say, \"Active.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=548.0,551.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nThey was active with really the Marcus Garvey Movement.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=551.0,559.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nMarcus Garvey.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=559.0,560.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah. A lot of them Garveyites, but you never know because sometimes they say things to you that have to figure it out what he's communicating with you, because they didn't want you to have a full-blown conversation about that, but a lot of them they, they'll say things, and you pick up and you might think about it about five or six years later, what they're saying to you about how I become involved with things that they would carry me out, and carry me the place where boycott, and learn how to - learn Charleston, and how to maneuver Charleston, how to get from here to there, you know? And learn how to deal with people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=560.0,629.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nOne of my objectives was dealing with people. I would load up some wagon to look deliver people all their groceries. So, I would make some wagon in the community because one of my granddaddy been in carpentry. He showed me how to make wagons and stuff out of all the boxes that they brought in fish and stuff like this. I would make wagons and stuff, and I would...to the people, my peers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=629.0,670.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nAnd so, the reason why I do it that way, because if I make money, I got to spend my money with them. So I said, I get tired of it. So I said, \"Well, hey, I'm going to show y'all how to make money, and I'm going to show y'all how to deliver paper and all too,\" knowing that these kids were older than me, three and four years older than me now, but I was doing the facilitation on how to deal with business at that age. Because back in that time, you have a lot of Black business in that time. That's all you would see coming up, from being in school, and that's all you see, and you was more comfortable like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=670.0,729.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWhat schools did you end up going to?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=729.0,733.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nC.A. Brown High School.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=733.0,735.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nYou graduated from C.A. Brown?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=735.0,737.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah. I went to C.A. Brown, and I had to leave earlier than I thought because the trouble that exists at that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=737.0,750.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWhat you mean by that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=750.0,751.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nWell, I'm saying that we was active at that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=751.0,757.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWho's, \"We.\"? Tell us about we, when you say-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=757.0,761.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nMe and the Jackson Street Panthers, and that...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=761.0,768.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\n... Come on now. Don't stop on us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=768.0,771.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nI ain’t stopping.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=771.0,773.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nThe Jackson Street Panthers was a gang on the East Side, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=773.0,777.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nNot really. We was a community. We protect-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=777.0,779.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nA community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=779.0,781.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\n... Yeah. We protect the community. They tried to make it like it was a gang, but we communicate, and we had the Sister Anthony, who knew we just go, we just go places. We knew to go to different college, and had a red and blue pass, go visit the college. And then plus, we used to help fix people's house at the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=781.0,815.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWell, tell us about the philosophy of Jackson Street Panthers. What made that come about?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=815.0,820.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nWe started on at East Bay Elementary and what it is [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=820.0,837.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"] that came out together, and we was protecting each other that way because you had older gang people, people who've been in the gang older than us that existed within the school, and so we didn't let nobody bully us, but we had a bunch of bullies then, but we didn't let them. By the time we graduated out of elementary school, we leave the bully there because they been scared to go to Simonton School at the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=837.0,873.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nScared to go to Simonton?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=873.0,875.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah. They were scared to go to Simonton. They rather flunk before they go to Simonton because that what they spot the bully at. And so, they couldn't bully at Simonton School. So, best thing they do is for them to get, you know, back, because we had been, like, 11 years old and stuff, and a lot of them were 15 years old at the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=875.0,908.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nUntil C.A. Brown come along, then we transfer across to C.A. Brown. So, as we went through to C.A. Brown, we still had that impact as Jackson Street Panthers. The thing been, but we need to help people out more than being like a gang, but when we go, we go as a group. And they had called the gang to the city, was in the upper room because us, you know, things been happening, they tried to stick it on us. All the time we was becoming active. We was really active in the community because we, at that time, as we go through high school, we see how, when we started joining demonstrations and stuff and organizing, by the time '67 come around, some trouble went down, about somebody getting either assault, or murder, something like that. So, what happened? They come, so we either we go to jail, or we had to leave, so we left.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=908.0,1006.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nGoing to places like where?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1006.0,1009.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nJersey.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1009.0,1010.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nIs that what you did?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1010.0,1013.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah. Well, all of us, practically all of us went to Jersey or New York.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1013.0,1016.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWhat parts in Jersey?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1016.0,1018.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nNewark. When I went up to Newark, it was like... Ah, there was a riot, and I look at it, it was like everything was torn upon up there when I get there, you know? I said, \"Wow,\" because all us had relative up there. You know? My grandmother, and my uncle, them, all them,  they were living up in New Haven, so once we get up there, we went to Harlem Prep to finish up, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1018.0,1063.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAnd you ended up finishing school at Harlem Prep?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1063.0,1066.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah, because all I had about a, not a lot more in school before all that stuff went down. I just had about, at least about... I think that been in April, yeah. April, and then, you know, graduation would've been in June, so at the time, they was trying to use us as a scapegoat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1066.0,1101.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nHow so?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1101.0,1103.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nBecause any trouble that going on in Charleston, you know? And so, what happens, it’d been best for us to leave.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1103.0,1114.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nSo, you're telling us that from time you were 11, you've been, already, learning about some of the things that can be done in Black community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1114.0,1134.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nRight. Yeah...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1134.0,1136.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nYou learned the games that can be played by the police-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1136.0,1141.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nThat’s right. Mm-hmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1141.0,1142.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\n...to blame folks for things that they didn't do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1142.0,1145.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nThat’s right. And back in that time, that's what they been doing. They would sticking on things on folks about the community. That's what they been doing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1145.0,1160.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nI'm going to jump ahead a little bit because everybody calls you, rightfully so, we refer to you as, \"Elder Hadis.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1160.0,1168.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1168.0,1169.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nBecause you've been around Charleston. You've been back for a number of years now, right? Do you remember when you came back to Charleston?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1169.0,1176.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nCame back in... Well, I was, like, coming back during the hospital strike, and I came back to here back in '68, after the stuff at South Carolina State, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1176.0,1204.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAfter the murders of the students, the students of State?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1204.0,1208.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah, but I came down on a recruiting trip because I had to play basketball there, but after I see what going on, see what [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1208.0,1219.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"], so I had to leave again. Then I came back, I went to Washington D.C. before, and hook up with the people from SNCC and LCLC to build Tent City. Before King had died, we done set up Resurrection City, that's what they called it. And we stayed there for about close to three or four months, before they put us out  - you know, after they had the riot after King died and stuff like that. They had a riot down, down C and F Street, down that side, you know, and on the other side of Howard, but we stood [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1219.0,1279.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"] down on the Memorial.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1279.0,1284.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWhat made you want to get involved and stay involved with stuff? I mean-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1284.0,1293.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nMy grandmother was always involved with the elders and everything else, with the church and everything. And she used to carry me places. She used to carry me places and stuff, and my uncle then used to carry me all over the place. Then I see what been going on, and that's why I learned about the boycott and everything, just from observing. When the one been by [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1293.0,1331.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"] a lot of the kids came from out the school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1331.0,1338.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\n...that was 19[68]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1338.0,1340.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah. All that came out the school. That was C.A. Brown, and join in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1340.0,1345.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nYeah. NAACP was pretty active back then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1345.0,1349.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah because they had most... Well, that the activity of doing things than anybody else, so I had to give it to them at that time, and they had some good leadership, but over time, as time go on, and when I became older, it is time for you to pass on that leadership. And a lot of time, a lot of people pass on the leadership. I said, us as young Brown people, you know, because there's a technique in doing things to protect yourself. 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That's what was doing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1426.0,1443.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nTell us what that means, about setting up security.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1443.0,1448.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nLike, we, you know, in a sense, we would come and go ahead and check things out - check the environment out, where we're going to be speaking at - and gather the people who we could draw to the rally and stuff that, and we just make things [safer], and...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1448.0,1470.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAnd how do you make things safer?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=1470.0,1476.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nWell, you sort out people, and how to create security, where you have people going out of the way to destroy what your objective is. 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We're talking about Charleston again. We're talking - because you've been... a while, and how'd you hear about Walter Scott?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5116.0,5132.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nOh, it came over because I know some people who know him, and plus, because I practically know him from friends and stuff like this here. That's how [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5132.0,5154.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"]. And some young people who I run into, you know. And so I had to sit down and school them about some things, how they could go about doing things, you know, that make sure that they don't encounter, and fight, and picking and boycotting anything, how they go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5154.0,5178.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nBecause previous, before Walter Scott, we've been doing cases about policemen and stuff roughing our people knowing, so we was very experienced in it, because we had almost about 20 or 30 years’ experience in how to set that up. Especially in New York [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5178.0,5215.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"] who were kind of involved, but we wouldn't teach them. We teach them the way that, how to protect themself and not to overdo things, and keep things balanced. But most of all, you have how your ancestors deal with things. See, that's the first bottom line, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5215.0,5247.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWhat does that mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5247.0,5248.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nThat mean that the spirit of the ancestors, how they fought for their freedom and stuff this, and fight against the oppressor, you know? But all that's part, you have to school the young one, you know... What you getting into and what it's all about, you know? You just don't throw them into a fire because we never stood nobody into fire. If we see somebody in the fire, we will help them through that fire, as an elder, and that's what we used to do. And that's what the elders do to us when I was coming up too. They help us through the fire and stuff, you know, and-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5248.0,5300.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWere young people willing to listen to you, and-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5300.0,5305.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\n...yeah, because the young man, who... Moye?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5305.0,5310.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nMm-hmm. Yeah. Muhiyidin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5310.0,5311.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah, Muhiyidin. I know him since when he been in high school, because he knew to see me being involved with things, and he was the only one that... The only Black football player on their team. And I talked to him [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5311.0,5336.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"] then, plus I knew [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5336.0,5340.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"]. That's the thing, so I know his father and stuff like that. I tells him he need to go out and come back in, and that's what he did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5340.0,5353.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nI'm not sure I understand when you say, \"Go out and come back in.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5353.0,5357.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah. He needs to go out and get some experience with other environment or people, and come back in. That's how you do. And any community in all our communities like that: once you get out of school, you go out and learn, and come back, and that's how you help your community out, you know? Be more experienced, and you be stable, you know how to stabilize yourself. So, you had to go out and come back and stabilize hisself; be a part of the activist environment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5357.0,5406.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAre there other people your age or close to your age that were stepping up to trying to be elders like you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5406.0,5416.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYes. Tyrone Smalls, and Eugene and-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5416.0,5426.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nGene?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5426.0,5427.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\n... Gene. Yeah, you probably meet him later on down the road, you know? And I met him, was just about four of us, and we had boycotts a bunch of place. I can't tell you, but we done did so much. We just do about five, about six boycotts a year for the last 20 years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5427.0,5460.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nBoycotting places like where?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5460.0,5463.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nStuff like this. People who can go that they treat people wrong. And we go and set the boycott, then we deal with Robert Ford; send Robert Ford up in here, you know? So, and plus we just deal with the Black Development Program.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5463.0,5492.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nSo, you're talking about community people-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5492.0,5495.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5495.0,5496.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\n...working with some of these program [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5496.0,5499.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"] set up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5499.0,5501.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5501.0,5502.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nHow did that work? If you get a government program, a city program set up, do they bring you in and talk with you about working with the community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5502.0,5514.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nNo. See... Well, the first thing that really what I would do, I do research and get a facts sheet. So, we didn't let [nobody] go into things, in the fire, without the facts sheet. Have them facts what you doing and why are you here? Because we didn't let people going to a lot of other people just let people just go in there, and... But we was creating an environment for them to be active in the community. That what kind of organizers we've been. We didn't mislead nobody. 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If you don't, let's go and move about your business.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5514.0,5574.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWhat were some of the things that you were trying to encourage people to do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5574.0,5580.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nUplift the community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5580.0,5583.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nYeah, but specifically?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5583.0,5587.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nThat specific thing I always think about are [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5587.0,5593.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"] to grow as a community and as people. And I that's how I come up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5593.0,5603.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWorking with young people?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5603.0,5604.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah. Working with... Not just young people, the whole community, because I came up around up around some elders, and although I had young people, at the time the elders friends with me, I was, like, eight years older than the kids that I've been around because I was wise at the time. It's not that I want to be a leader, but the spirit that they injected me, you know, kind of natural to me. So, I didn't have no problem getting involved with nobody and stuff like this, like...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5604.0,5658.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWell, tell us about right around the time after Walter Scott, and putting pressure on the North Charleston police, and everything. 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ANTONUS SMITH\n\n... and that what going on in Charleston because you got to be consistent what you're doing right here. If you don't be consistent, you know, you will be lost. But we came up being consistent with what we do, and we came up learning how to research things too, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5746.0,5775.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAnd not give up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5775.0,5776.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nThat's right. That's true. I mean, one time there was this boycotting the store who had shoot this little boy, and we boycott them for 24 hours a day, for four months, 24 hours a day. We come out there at night. We have our little thing on the sign where we had a cardboard box, we be right in that cardboard box. One of us go to go sleep, and somebody be with the microphone. And the reason why that's for... When we finished with that establishment, that establishment been gone out our community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5776.0,5830.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAnd what were the problems with it? What was it that you were protesting?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5830.0,5834.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nThe shooting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5834.0,5836.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nThe fact that the owner had actually shot somebody?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5836.0,5838.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nThat's right. For no reason at all, period. And they had a bad attitude towards the people that they been serving, because we didn't want them in our environment with that. Although they was making money off us, and treating our people wrong, it wasn't about that. And the reason why that, in a sense, until Robert Ford called it off [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5838.0,5883.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"], see when he said how the boycott was over with, we keep on going because we have another motive for what we were doing, but he wasn't negotiating and stuff, but we wasn't about that because we have other thoughts, because we came up in that community, you know? We just really want them out the community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5883.0,5908.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nThis is before Robert Ford became Senator?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5908.0,5911.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah, way before he became Senator [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5911.0,5917.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"]...about to become the City Councilman and stuff, and-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5917.0,5919.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nOkay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5919.0,5920.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5920.0,5923.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nSo, you're telling us that even back then, in the '70s, you had different people trying to work with the city, work with these businesses, and where everybody wasn't in agreement as-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5923.0,5940.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nNo, because a lot of them was not in agreement with us. See, we was like, our ancestors tell us something different, spiritually, and we were dealing with spirit of the ancestors would tell us different because we had understand our ancestors, and we understand the Black Power movement too. At the time we wasn't just there, but we understand the Black Power movement, and who we are; we know who we've been. Not somebody else to identify who we are, but we know who we are, and we know what our purpose.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=5940.0,5993.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nYou mentioned a little while ago about trying to educate people, school people, mentor people, about sticking with your purpose. 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How you say?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6018.0,6027.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\n...COINTELPRO [Counterintelligence Program]? Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6027.0,6048.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nWho were planted, that’s how we used to call them, who were planted, and how they send people – how they send people in your circle to create chaos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6048.0,6065.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nDid you see that happening during the Black Lives Matter? ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah, yeah! Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6065.0,6069.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah, yeah! Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6069.0,6069.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah, yeah! Sure. MILLICENT BROWN\n\nCan you tell us about that a little bit?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6069.0,6071.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nWell, yeah. But most of the people that I saw that was in it was a lot of different people who I had never met before, you know? And a lot of times, you have to observe and see how they deal with things because we was well-schooled in how to observe and how people that coming there as informants and all, because you had a bunch of informants that came through, you know? You had informants that created this situation on King Street.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6071.0,6115.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWere you around when that last so-called riot?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6115.0,6121.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nOh no, because I know better, not to be out at night, you know? Because once you see, they did send some people in there to break windows and stuff this, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6121.0,6149.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nBut you don't think these were just regular community people?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6149.0,6153.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nNo, it was probably regular community people afterward, but the informant lead them, that situation, create that situation for them to fall into that. 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They sucker-punch the community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6171.0,6180.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAnd you had seen that happen before?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6180.0,6182.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nOh, I seen that happen a lot of time. I seen that happen on nationally, you name it, I’d say internationally, you know, all that. Once you get schooled in everything, you see through things and how they operate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6182.0,6203.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nHow do you feel about this? You know, because you've been involved all your life, all over the place trying to bring about change, but you want to do it in the right way. How do you feel now about this time of activism, Black Lives Matter, George Floyd, all the response to his murder? You know? How are you feeling about folks stepping up to these challenges?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6203.0,6241.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nOkay. I see more people become involved in their community. It wasn't because outside thing, but the regular people still been involved with everything, but you had the umbrella that came in, when Black Lives Matter came in afterwards to headline things, you know? Like any other organization do. They headline things, but really, the grass-root people was doing the work, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6241.0,6282.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAre grassroots people still doing the work?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6282.0,6287.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nOh yeah, they're still doing that work. But then we have some leadership that is very stagnated, you know, and they refuse to pass the knowledge down to the young people. These are young people, you know? See the way through this, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6287.0,6309.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWho do you have the most hope in right now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6309.0,6323.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nI'll put it like this: I have, like anybody else, a divine spirit, and a spirit of my ancestors that give me the vision to do things that I do. It's not about no organization or nothing like this, that divine spirit. Like I say, I have my purpose, be doing it and what I do. You know? All I'm doing is following the direction of the divine spirit of ancestors and where they want me to go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6323.0,6364.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nAnd what does that look on a day-to-day basis?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6364.0,6367.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nTry and uplift somebody every day. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6367.0,6374.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nEverybody talks about, \"Oh, we seen you over at [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6374.0,6377.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"], seen you over at this place, at Hamstead Park,\" or... Tell us. Back at the green, you know...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6377.0,6382.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nSee, the thing is that you're seeing the grandkids now... I'm seeing the grandkids now, so I can tell them the story about their grandparents. So, all I'm doing is telling them the story, is after they become involved in their community, but I can do the stuff that I used to do, I move around I used to do, but I'm more established, you know, where I can have people come to me, and I can pass down some knowledge to them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6382.0,6432.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nLike a mentor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6432.0,6433.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah, because while I tell them [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6433.0,6438.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"] with this knowledge, you have to come back and do something for the community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6438.0,6447.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nThat's a basic principle that- ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6447.0,6448.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6448.0,6448.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah. MILLICENT BROWN\n\n...that whatever you do, you need to think about folks around you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6448.0,6457.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah. If you are a good organizer. There's no money in this because once you became a good organizer, people would feed you. Once people stop feeding you, it's time for you to book up and go. [Laughter.] And that's what any organizer do, because once they stopped feeding me in Charleston, it's time for me to leave. That's how I see it. That means that they don't share with you no more. That's the bottom line.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6457.0,6500.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nBut I don't think that's the problem you have, because people still share.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6500.0,6503.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nNo, that's right. They [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6503.0,6511.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"] even their little kids share with me. Great-grandkids share with me and all like that, but you know, in Charleston, you have a bunch of nicknames in Charleston. One time I had... Every place I go, I had a different nickname, I said, \"Wow,\" and I said to myself, I got [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6511.0,6536.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"] because I go across town, they call me Black cross town. They call me something over the West Side, go up North Charleston, they called me something different, you know? 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They got it down pat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6560.0,6568.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nYeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6568.0,6569.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYou want ask anybody, when they ask your little granddaughter, five and six years old, they been pronounced my name perfect. 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Yeah. Because I... Because a lot of them, I don't care where they see me, they could come over and say something. They're five and six years old. They do that because a lot of times, when you are part of the community, you have to share with the babies and all. You have to share the blessing with the babies and all too, and once that baby becomes [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6584.0,6622.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"], they begin to understand. They won’t depart from that spirit, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6622.0,6631.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nIf you knew that 25 years from now, somebody was going to be listening to this tape, what do you think you would want? What is it that you would say that you want 25, 50 years from now? 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And the ancestors' spirit could be here as long we exist, because once I deceased, you see another Hadis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6659.0,6734.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nAnd physically, you might not see me, but spiritually, I'm there again. There will always be Hadis around, you know, and so there will always be a Black around, by family, I represent a Black that, and that was born in 1910, and what he tell me said, I act the same way, as my granduncle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6734.0,6780.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nReally?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6780.0,6781.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah. They tell me, I take on his spirit, so I was wondering [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6781.0,6795.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=6795.0,10394.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nSo, you want to leave the thought that, you know, they can take up your spirit and keep it going-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=10394.0,10400.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=10400.0,10401.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\n... too?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=10401.0,10404.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah, because my spirit will always be here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=10404.0,10406.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWell-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=10406.0,10407.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nOnce they hear this interview, because this interview’s about divine spirit, so they going to touch somebody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=10407.0,10420.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nLet me ask you something: do you have any hope that [Charleston] and the United States is going to ever accept Black people in the way that we want to be accepted?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=10420.0,10443.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nWell, it's up to us. We have to create that spirit inside us, and we get away from that spirit? Then, you begin to not being yourself. Long as we be ourself, we can strive and carry out our mission, and our purpose, but when we get away from ourself, and then you take [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=10443.0,10488.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"], that's unnatural. It'll control you, and that's why it be sometimes it's difficult for people to understand what going on because we never in history, we never do nothing to dominate no other race, and wouldn’t... All we did is uplift humanity. And all the humanity came, you know, came from our environment. Once they get out of our environment, they turn on us like they're doing now. We're their parents and our kids turn on us, and flip on, so that’s...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=10488.0,10554.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nBut you got to stand up and be the parent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=10554.0,10556.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nOh yeah. That right. If you don't, it'll beat you down. You become scared of your... You scared of those kids, but that's just the example what I'm using.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=10556.0,10569.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nNo, it's an excellent example.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=10569.0,10570.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah. It's the real deal, we just have to stick [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=10570.0,10578.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"], and keep that spirit of our ancestors because... And although people claim and discredit you, it's right there, what we do. We got examples of everything we do in this society. If we take back all our invention, you know, what we invent and everything, [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=10578.0,10613.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"] and a chaos situation, while we just being here to keep things in focus. So, this is our purpose. We keep humanity in focus with a divine spirit. If we get away from that, everything else become chaos. You can see that going on right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=10613.0,10644.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nSo, stay true to who it is you are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=10644.0,10646.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nThat's right. Be yourselves. And you always receive the spirit of your ancestors. Every day you take a step, the spirit of your ancestor be right with you. And some people don't know that, but they'd be right [with you], you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=10646.0,10668.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nThank you, Brother Hadis. We appreciate it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=10668.0,10670.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nYeah. I'd to say, peace and love.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=10670.0,10674.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nPeace and love to you too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=10674.0,10677.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023/transcript/93096/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ANTONUS SMITH\n\nPeace.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/169439/file/308023#t=10677.0,10678.5"}]}]}]}