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Born on Sullivan’s Island, which is a little small island on the outskirts of James Island. But it's associated with James Island. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=20.0,39.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nJames Island is what you call home. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=39.0,40.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nThat's where I call home. Yes. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=40.0,43.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nOkay. Now we're going to let you identify yourself. Do you have a position now that tells us what you're currently doing? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=43.0,55.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nWell, technically I will always be a historian in the Gullah-Geechee community. My goal is to help pass information from elders down to the youth. I feel like I am the representative of the same [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=55.0,74.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"], which is one of the things that connected me and Muhiyidin. But I am a business owner, so I own a business called the Taste of Gullah. The goal is to bring events and authenticity of the culture to the people. I use that as part of it. What I also do is, connect myself with the diaspora. It's not just I'm housed here in Charleston, South Carolina. I go to Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, because the goal is to connect all the people. They got different things going on in different areas. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=74.0,122.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nYou smile, which means you probably have some interesting stories that you could tell us about connecting people. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=122.0,130.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nYeah. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=130.0,134.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nTell us just a little bit about what that being Gullah has meant to you. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=134.0,141.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nActually, since I have adapted it to myself, it gave me a sense of identity. Because being Black in America, you actually are walking around without an identity. Black is not an identity. It gives you something to clasp to. Being that it's associated with a group of people, it gives me my own self sense of a national identity. I actually can say, I have a nation behind me and that right there makes you feel better. It builds your self worth. \n\nI think that's very inspirational, especially when you're talking to other people. Especially like the youth growing up where they're in this world, where everything is so infused so you cross so many barriers until most people don't know how to identify with self. You have to identify with self in order for you to have self-growth, self-worth. In order for you to develop. In order for you to grow. It's a building block. That's what being Gullah to me means. It's my own self worth identity. Then it makes me feel whole. Then that just brings in everything else, spirituality, nutrition, things like that. It's just giving yourself a person. I'm a person. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=141.0,230.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nHelp us understand why all of that was so important to you. This identity, was it something that had always been passed on to you? Is it something you had to go looking for? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=230.0,249.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nWell, I'll be honest with you. I grew up here in Charleston. The connection, well, we're going to throw the word Gullah out the window and we're going to reflect on the word Geechee because that's really where people was associating us as the Geechee people. Gullah to me is just something newer that we connect to. I think it's more of, I call it the more orthodox term. But actually I've always had a self worth growing up. Being in the culture in the community that I was in, is very independent. \n\nThere was a lot of people who were breadwinners. There were a lot of people who were business owners. That was there. But the identity of who we was, was actually blended in and the terminology that people associated was, had such a negative connotation to it. To be considered a Geechee person, felt like you were on the bottom, you were scraps, you were trash. I had to go looking for the positives of what that term meant so I can actually associate it with myself. \n\nBecause I felt like I grew up with self worth. I felt like I grew up with an identity being in the community that I had coming from the family generations. Because in this culture, your name, family name, means something. Your family name has a family history. My family history names meant something. But when you step outside of that, it's so many different names out here. There's so many different families. But it was no quite connection to make me feel like I was a person. \n\nIt wasn't until I lived in California for a brief moment, that somebody identified me as Geechee, which I ran from that word. Because it had such a negative connotation. They didn't want you speaking the language. I commend everybody who working on language restoration right now, because the language, they didn't want you speaking any form of what they call broken English, what we call an actual language now. They didn't want you speaking any of that. \n\nI remember growing up, my grandmother corrected me so many times just to speak more proper, get rid of the accent. Speak more English. Things like that. Because they grew up in a world where if you spoke that, then they would not consider you a person. That's the mindset that actually was attributed to me as I was growing up is, even though we had all of this, the values that we had. I laugh all the time, because I grew up with a lot of White people on James Island and we had more. \n\nWe lived in houses. We had businesses. We had cars. A lot of White people that I knew, didn't have a lot of that stuff. But yet I was still considered the bottom of the barrel. I didn't understand if we all supposed to be in the same area, how is that even possible? But it wasn't until I got into middle school that I realized that the Geechee term and being considered a Geechee, is what's throwing me underneath, what’s throwing me on the bottom. I didn't really like that term. \n\nI didn't want to be considered a Geechee. I didn't want to be associated with that. Because to me, because of negative connotation to it, it made me trash. It really did. But when I went to California, I ran into a guy. Well, I know that most people, even if they grew up here and they could take away their accent, once they get talking really fast and they really get passionate about stuff, the accent comes in. The connotations of some of the words come in. \n\nPeople who don't know you, can pick those things out. He said to me, he said, \"You sound like a Geechee.\" Well Geechee is a fighting term. It's really a fighting term. When people say you Geechee, that's like, look, we about to bam. Because it is not considered positive. Now I love the fact that they're changing the narrative. It's a positive identification to the word now. But over 30 plus years ago, no sir. You don't call people Gullah-Geechee. You don't even say Geechee. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=249.0,552.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWhat do you think brought on that change? How did that transformation occur? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=552.0,558.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nOh, I think a lot of this stuff going on after the Civil Rights movement. After people identifying with Black culture. After those people outside of this community, started identifying with their African and Native American heritage. I think that is the beginning of why the laws changing. We want to be a little bit more equal. Those things a little bit slowly started transforming that. You have to identify with the diversities of the different cultures going on. \n\nI think that's where your changes started coming in. Then it's on a personal level for most people or they want to identify who they are. Then they changed their minds to recollect on the positivity of the things about this culture. I think that's where it started. Then it just took a whirlwind and then it just started going like a snowball. People just started like, “Oh me, I'm Gullah. I'm Gullah. I'm Gullah.” At one time I'm like, “But yeah, I hear you. I really hear you explaining it. But you don't realize that some of the things that people went through.” ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=558.0,652.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nYou're saying that this wasn't just a personal transformation, you're saying you were picking up with family members, neighbors. That you saw them responding this way as well? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=652.0,664.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nI think it was more personal. Then me changing the way I felt about it, helped a lot of my family members change their mindsets towards it. I think that really was it, because I had to step outside of this community. We have such a close knit community here in Charleston. I like to say some people still are mentally enslaved, their minds are still stuck in that hate syndrome. We fighting against each other. You actually have to step outside the world and come back into the world with a different perspective. \n\nI think that was a catalyst for a lot of people. Okay, she's standing up. She understands who she is. She loves who she is. I'm on the darker side of things. That was a big issue when it came down to growing up here in Charleston. It was a lot of things that was in play for me. But I truly think it wasn't initially my community that transformed me, it was me helping to transform some of the people in the community. I moved away from Charleston in 1994 or five. '95. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=664.0,759.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nYou would've been about how old then? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=759.0,762.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nAbout 18. In my time away, when I came back, I came back in 2007. I will say like around 2005, 2006 is where you started seeing a little bit of change inside the communities of the Lowcountry, identifying with Gullah culture. Versus we just Black. That's how I feel. I don't know what else to say about that. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=762.0,796.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nNo, the idea is you picked up very, very beautifully about the importance of culture and identity and everything. How does returning to Charleston around this time, set with your political beliefs? Is there a connection between your strengthened identity and what's going on in the streets? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=796.0,832.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nYeah, yeah. When you leave, the world outside of Charleston is very different. You understand that people fighting for their culture outside of Charleston. I realized that I had a culture inside of Charleston and I felt like it was important to come home to fight for that culture, because despite the language. Despite the African ideology, the connections. Despite that. It was the fact that the people weren't aware that they were going to get slaughtered politically in Charleston. \n\nBecause they didn't know how politics was 25 years in front of them. People were making plans on their lands without them. People were making plans about their culture without them. When I came back to Charleston, I think it was maybe when I visited in 2005, the city of Charleston had released their 25 year re-development plan for downtown Charleston. I grew up coming back and forth downtown Charleston, all my family and friends. \n\nI had lots of family downtown Charleston. It was about 85% Black people. We're not talking about Black people just here, we're talking about Black own businesses. We're talking about communities. We're talking about homes, neighborhoods. We're talking about up and down Charleston. I don't like coming downtown Charleston now because you come down Charleston, it's about 10% Black people in Charleston and you only see about 3% of them. \n\nMost of them are hidden away in the back of the buildings. They have redirected the traffic in Charleston so that you don't even know Black communities are even in existence here. I feel that this is where the misappropriation of the culture comes in, because you're living on the backs of Southern Lowcountry Black people's stuff, and they can't find the people. I knew that this was in process. I lived in California for a couple of years and then going out of the country and living out of the country for a couple of years, I knew that this is how they slaughtered the Indigenous people. \n\nI knew that's how they moved on. My thing was, I identified with my Sea Island people. When I came back is when I started understanding, oh, they Gullah? What happened to the Geechee people? It's now Gullah? Okay, well we just going to simulate all of that and we have to protect the people. That was one of the moves that I was making, which is why I started going into politics around here. Is because somebody has to be at the table. \n\nBecause when I was in California and I was in charge of one of the communities in California, it was a very wealthy white guy, Mr. Roger. He said to me, he said, \"Giovanni, I'm going to tell you. I like your passion. I like everything that you do. But, your people will be dissected at the table. Because they have no representation at the table.\" I said, \"Oh, I will be at the table.\" That was one of the reasons why I came back and started getting into the politics in the communities here, is to know what was actually being done on the back end. \n\nBecause a lot of people didn't know what was happening. They was so living in their lifestyle of survival. They got up, went to work. They were in their little tiny, small knit communities. My community Sol Legare, Beefield, they families is around them. They live right here in solitude. They don't know what's going on around them. They don't know the bulldozers are coming until the bulldozers show up at the front door. Then it's like, “Oh, why the bulldozer here? Well, it's too late because you didn't know anything about the permits.” You didn't know that they was revitalizing your community? You didn't know that they made a decision that y'all didn't exist because you wasn't at the table to say I'm here. I could be long winded. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=832.0,1146.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nThat is all right. No, no, no, no. It makes an awful lot of sense. I'm just more curious now. How did you take those baby steps? When you say I got more involved in politics, what did you start doing? How did you help this process unfold for yourself? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=1146.0,1167.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nI think my baby steps were outside of the community, versus coming in the community. I just jumped in it in the communities. I didn't really do too much baby stepping here. But I have already fell down a couple of times running for politics in California where people don't know me, and things like that. When I got here, I knew that you got to know who's on your county council. I knew you had to know who was on your public service district. \n\nI knew you had to know the mayor and who was the city council people. I knew you had to know them. I decided to, because— my grandma taught me how to get rid of my accent. I really know how to articulate my words. I am very passionate about conveying what I have to say in a sentence that is understandable, very audible. I use that talent to go in front of these community boards. In front of these social networks so I can say, “Hey, who representing the Gullah people?” \n\nMost of the time there was no representation. But then once you say, “Hey, I'm here,” that's when they say, “Oh.” Because, they knew the people existed. They knew they were out to destroy the people. But they was being very quiet about it until some raised they're hand. I decided to raise my hand. After I raised my hand two different times, that's when you had a lot of the elders who were in the communities, but they were hush-hush, started saying, \"Hey, did you know this was going on? What do you feel about this? Or you should join the Democratic Party. What do you feel about this?\" Things like that. \n\nThat's how I started. I grew up where there's a bunch of water. It's sink or swim. Ain't nobody teaching you how to swim. They going to throw you off the dock. If you stay down there too long, somebody will come and get you. But most of the time, you'll fight effort inside you, it’s going to make you come back to that surface. That's what I reflected on. “Oh, well they don't like me? Oh, well.” But we got to get it done. That's why I did what I did to help people on the school board work on the back end. \n\nThen talk to young people and say, \"Hey, you have the passion inside you. You have to look at your future, your kids, your grandkids coming up. What are you going to do if they take all your land away? There's no heir’s property if there's no property.” That's really what I did. I think it was meant for me to not like being here, because there's so much pain and torture that I saw on the people. For me to leave and learn to come back to say, “Hey, let's put some band aids on these things, let's figure it out.” \n\nIt's to the point where right now I'm like, how are we going to really nationalize, create a nation within a nation of our community so that we can actually move forward in solitude? Because, we live in the United States of America. They have…tortured people for a long period of time, you know. People are asking for reparations, the government ain't giving us nothing. But we have to figure out how we're going to create a nation and build our own internal government so that we can rectify some of the wrongs that we have, because, we are looking for people outside to rectify the wrongs, when they don't even understand or even recognize that they even wronged. They're saying, “Oh, okay, we'll give a band aid and put a band aid on the situation.” But that's really not what it is. We have enough power within ourselves, within our culture, within our passion of our spirituality, that we can actually fix our problems. We just got to find a, a means on how to move in that direction. But, that's just big thinking. A little bit too futuristic for some people. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=1167.0,1459.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nThat's what visionaries do. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=1459.0,1461.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nYeah. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=1461.0,1464.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nFor the period of time that we are especially talking about for this project, some really horrible, horrible things happened in the Charleston community. Not for the first time, but the kinds of things that made national and worldwide attention. We talk about the Walter Scott murder, on through the massacre at Emanuel. Can you tell us how you got connected to some of those atrocities or the people who were responding to them? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=1464.0,1511.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nSo…Being that I actually was, I feel like on ground level, and very vocal on communicating and connecting people. When those situations happened with the Walter Scott situation and the Emanuel situation, my biggest thing was, “This ain't our first time having to deal with this.” Walter Scott is not the first person that was murdered by the police here in Charleston. I actually used to try to talk and work with all of these death by suicide at the hands of the police. Meaning the police actually killed these people, and they were considered for suicides. It was really trying to make a situation happen for the Walter Scott, but if it wasn't videotaped, then Walter Scott situation would've went underneath the rug, just like any of the other murders. Charleston county police officers, the city of Charleston police officers and North Charleston police officers have a high murder rate when it comes down to killing people. They hide behind their shield and their badge. \n\nI was very glad when the Walter Scott situation happened I didn't deal with the family. I really started dealing with the young man who videotaped it because his life is on the line now. He has to go in hiding and he has be protected. That was my main thing is because, now that your video has surfaced, your name is going to pop up. They're going to do whatever they got to do to target you, because this is how we got to clean up the mess that's been made. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=1511.0,1661.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWhat did you do directly? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=1661.0,1665.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nI actually had many of secret meetings and conversations with him. Meeting him. Inviting him to my own home. Coming to his house. Just sitting down with him to talk to him. Now I know that he had a very crazy past. He was doing all kinds of things. Which I said, \"Stay away from all of that. Because they want to use that as a target to come after you.\" But my thing was, in that conversation was, “Hey, you got to realize what's happening here. You have now identified a situation. Instead of them going to face the situation, they're going to come after the catalyst. That is you.\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=1665.0,1715.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWas it difficult to help him understand that? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=1715.0,1717.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nVery, very difficult. We live in times where people have egos and emotions. They don't see the big picture. He was trying to stay anonymous as possible. But we know that only lasts but so long. Because you living in the streets and you start bragging and talking and somebody else hears the story, and then they take the story. I say this all the time in my own neighborhood, \"Please don't sell my story to the tabloids. Please don't. They don't need to know what's going on behind closed doors. Don't sell my story to the tabloids.\"  \n\nBut people want fame and fortune and money. Then you had The Sun and The Enquirer and all those newspapers coming down here. They got a checkbook and they willing to write a check to whoever got information about what's going on so they can take the narrative of the story and twist it. Those are some of the things that actually was coming to the forefront and why it went in the direction that it went. I actually don't even know where this young man is right now. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=1717.0,1811.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nFeidin Santana? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=1811.0,1812.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nYeah. I don't even know where he's at, at this time. I think he went to jail. No, he's not in jail? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=1812.0,1820.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nNo, he's in North Charleston. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=1820.0,1821.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nHe's still in North Charleston? I'll give him a call. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=1821.0,1827.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nHe got a barber shop now. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=1827.0,1828.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nHe got a barber shop? Get out of here. Okay. Well that's good. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=1828.0,1835.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nGo back to what else is happening. Because that's what that one person and the support that you tried to give. What do you have to say about other young folks that were coming out and outraged about the Walter Scott murder and other kinds of atrocities? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=1835.0,1858.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nTo be honest with you, I thought it was great. I thought it was great to have youth passion. Most of the time you need passion for motivation. That passion creates other people to be aware of what the situation was. Now, because I've been in the mix for a long time and being on the political side, you know how to walk around certain issues. But the people who were actually initially emotionally hit with it, vocalize yourself. March if you need to. \n\nYou know, get out there and say what you got to say, because it's very important. It's not just important for you to recognize inside yourself, but it's important that you become that catalyst for those people who are standing on the sidelines. I was all about the people who was protesting and getting out there and doing what they needed to do, because it was important, I was the big sister. Let me help you navigate through the channels, because there's loopholes that you actually can go through if you want to get to that next level. You can't just think you're gone bulldoze your way in, and we are in the era right now, where you have to realize that you can't just cry, I'm Black and it matters all the time. Because then, most people will be like— they’re going to start trying to use some of your own stereotypical— not stereotypical, but your own stats against you in that, “I'm Black and it matters,” you know, ideology. \n\nYou have to have— there’s facts behind these things that you got to move and navigate yourself. But I was really passionate about let's get there if you passionate about it. Okay, now you realize if you throw a brick in somebody window, they going to be like, “Oh yeah.” Then somebody else can come back and say, click, “This person threw a brick in the window. Let's put them up on charges.” What we going to do when they put you on charge? Let's get that funding going. Let's get these pools going. Let's find a way that we can actually find a cushion or a mattress for them to fall on when they fall down. Because you know we can't just be super passionate and aggressive in a society where the system is against us. You think you are going to be able to go through and not actually get cut in this whole thing? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=1858.0,2030.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nCan you tell us a little bit more specifically about how that support base actually started getting built in the community? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=2030.0,2046.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nIt's about conversation and not being afraid. Speak, and not be inhibited when you speak. It's just— we going to put this on the table. If we want people to understand that we want to be tolerated on certain levels, we have to talk about things that are intolerable. We got to talk about it. We have to put it on the table. Let's just cut and dry those conversations. It's just like a magnet. You start being attracted to people who also was saying some of the same things in what you're saying. \n\nThen you then say, “Let's take it to the next level.” We have to connect on multiple levels of things. I realized that those hidden conversations won't be in private little hole in the wall places. We met plenty of times on Mosquito Beach and where we can say what we want to say. It's quiet. Nobody has no cameras here. We need to talk about how we gone get some funding for these people. We need to talk about who's going to be the lawyer for these people. \n\nWe need to talk about what's the next move, because they're out here doing what they're doing. But they don't realize that there are consequences behind the actions. Being the fact that you know and I know that in the 1960s, they already went through the marches and going to jail. But they had organizations that could help get them out of these jails. They had people who had enough funding that could help them get out of these situations. \n\nThat's what we need to have going on. That's where I was in the back end. Because I've been on the front end for a long time. It's time to let these other people take their passion to the front and you retreat in the back, because we need to build this foundation, because that's what really needs to happen. Or if we can't get them out of jail, can we get enough money to make sure that they got food inside jail so they can actually eat? \n\nBecause this private prison system is nasty. I don't want nobody locked in the box. I don't want nobody locked in the box eating scraps that I don't even feed my own dog. We have to be able to find a way to provide. What happened is, you have these little secret meetings with people on the back end. Talk in private little places. I got a nice big backyard. I don't know how many times that I had a barbecue going on in the back end. \n\nMr. Dixon jumped in there or Mr. Singletary has been there. It is just those situations that we have to meet up with people who are already doing what they're doing. Then link in and pulling in a few of the key people who might be leading that forefront and be that whisper in their ears so that they can know. They comfortable. But we going to keep doing what we doing, just to know somebody else is backing us. Somebody else is supporting us. Because you don't want to be out in the middle of the water without a support at all. I don't just want to float without a boat because there's sharks underneath that water. The sharks will get you. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=2046.0,2284.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nHow do you assess or rate what was going on in this community as far as older leaders working with younger up and coming leaders? How did that work out? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=2284.0,2305.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nThat is still going on. Is this like a 1 to 10? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=2305.0,2308.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nYeah, you can do that. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=2308.0,2309.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nThey a negative seven. That's how I look at it. On a scale of 1 to 10, they ain't even make it to zero, they on the negative side. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=2309.0,2318.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nTell us about it. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=2318.0,2318.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nThat's a sad thing. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=2318.0,2319.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWell tell us about it. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=2319.0,2320.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nI feel like that is because, you might have a few people that cross the barrier. If we're talking about the ones who actually cross the barrier and willing to work with the younger people, I give them a seven and a eight, because they have that passion. But if we talking about the whole massive group and we looking at them? No, they looking down on those young people. They mad because they like, \"Why y'all stirring the pot?\" You got to stir that pot. I don't know, but I like grits. You going to stir that grits to get that skim on the top. Nobody wants that. No, and that's just how it is. The older people, the pastors and the churches. The ones who are leaders. The ones who are in those groups, who are in the Democratic parties, the women's societies. All of those who actually can be mentors to these younger people, turned they backs on them. They really did, they turned their backs on them. And then they scoffed, and they pointed they fingers, and they looked, and then they, to me, sided with the enemy. And that stagnated the community of South Carolina, when those passionate moments were going on. Because, when you look at other communities, when these same situations was going on, I feel that they had a better connection with their mentors and mentees, where this community did not have that. And I don't know if I attribute that to they still a little bit under the brainwash of slavery mindset. That mentality, that's still going on. \n\nI don't know if it was that. But, it just— it was a major split for the young people, and they were like, dead in the water. They just, they knew that this is what has to be done. But they didn't have that aggressive, the ones with the real back ends. The ones with the money. The ones with the Royal Missionary Baptist churches, they didn't have the money of them. Those people who actually had they foot on the grounds and they did something and they established themselves. \n\nWhen this situation, even the Emanuel nine situation happened, we're talking about 15 or so people getting shot in a church and nine people dying in that church. Well, first of all…that’s a outrage, not just to this community, but the whole nation. I just feel that that situation should have created such a chain, a wave-length, but it didn’t. It kind of like fizzled out. Then everybody came to a halt. Because they had the funeral and Obama came down and we shall overcome. Not to talk trash about the song, because I love that song. But you know, it’s like we shall overcome one day. Today is the day. Today, we overcome it. What happened? Then after that, its just like…now it's silent. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=2320.0,2529.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nIf you had your druthers, what would you like to have seen happen? What is it that you would imagine could have occurred in this community? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=2529.0,2544.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nI would- ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=2544.0,2545.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nThat would, that would have been more permanent, I guess? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=2545.0,2548.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nTo be honest with you, I looked over at that situation over and over and over and over again. I don't think the truth is out yet. You know, yes Dylann Roof came in. Yes, he murdered nine people. One of them was Senator Clementa Pinckney. But I don't think people are talking about the truth of what happened. We talking about an assassination of a Senator. Right? Now, that by itself is a monumental moment. We talking about the assassination of an elected official. But we're not just talking about the assassination of an elected official.  \n\nWe're talking about who was Clementa Pickney, and what did he have going on? Dylann Roof didn't just come in one of the oldest Black churches to kill people. He came in there with a purpose. I think that purpose was to assassinate Clementa Pinckney. Clementa Pinckney had a lot of stuff going on at the time. One of the reasons I think he's targeted is because we going to take this into a big situation. The Gullah-Geechee people in the state of South Carolina have more developable land than anybody else. \n\nHe had two bills out there that was protecting these people from getting developers just come in to just take their land in a land grabbing situation. He made it known that no, a family member who wasn't a resident in this community, couldn't just say, “Well, I'm going to allow the developer to buy me out,” when the developer now has to force the sale on everybody else. Because in 2000 to 2003, the bills were changed on the forefront on which you could actually force the sale inside your community. \n\nIt wasn't allowed. Well, I got 20 people in my family. One person want to sell, so we can just buy him out. Then it'll be like that. No, they no longer allowed that. The judges now allowed, if the developer buys this one person out, now you got to buy the developer out. Most of the time you don't have enough money to buy the developer out. They might be living on million dollar land, but we not talking about a million dollar money. \n\nA lot of that time Clementa Pinckney, he had a bill on the table for the state. Because he's representing areas like Bamberg community. All these rural areas that people got 40, 50 and 60, sometimes 100 acres of property and the developers are coming in. They didn't just come in and kill nine people in that church, they assassinated Clementa Pinckney. Because Clementa Pinckney had a revolutionary plan. His plan was to keep the Black people, the Gullah-Geechee people for maintaining their property. \n\nThe state of South Carolina had now run out of land. Their choice, they had to have for sales in all those areas, if we want to be prim and proper and keep up with the Joneses. We are not talking about the truth of what happened. This is why I say, it all just faded out into the killing of Black people. If we really want to talk about this, we going to talk about Clementa Pinckney and what his theories was and what he was doing. \n\nBecause most people, they don't look at it like that. They just see, I'm looking at it from a political standpoint. I'm like, we talking about assassination of a whole Senator here people. He was a representative of multiple people. He was representing these people for a long period of time. He realized what was going on with their land. We talking about, “Oh, these are the people who actually got their 40 acres and a mule.” Because most people, “Oh, the Black people didn't get their 40 acres and a mule.” Some people didn't. Some people got they, it ain't even the whole 40, might been 15. It might have been five. It might have been 20. But they got that and- ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=2548.0,2823.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nThey held on it. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=2823.0,2825.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\n— they held onto it. They held onto it. Then they had these generations of people and generations going on and now the state of South Carolina has used up all they forestries. They used up all they land. This is where we are. That's what I feel that if we going to talk about it, we going to bring it back to the table. But we going to talk about it in truth. For what it really was. This young man didn't just go in here to kill nine Black people. \n\nLet me help you out. They were killing people all over America. White people been killing Black people all over America. Oh, because it's the oldest Black church. No, it wasn't even that. It was the assassination situation. That's what really need to be talked about. How and why this man was assassinated. What was he doing? In hindsight, what was he doing, to see what was going on? He had two bills on the table to protect people and land. Land is money—oh, sorry. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=2825.0,2896.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nNo, no, no. No, no, no, no. It just makes me think. Do you think that a number of the young activists that you were supporting and around at this time, understood the concepts that you've just been talking about? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=2896.0,2917.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nThey have no idea. They have no idea because they got caught up on the Black, White issue. They got caught up on that, we all equals. Black and White. Black power. They got caught up on that. They didn't understand what was going on underneath, they didn't realize that the driving force of what really was going on. It's easy to get brainwashed in here when you got enough propaganda going on. People were going on around the country doing other stuff. We had a lot of police killings going on, you had the Flint situation going on. \n\nYou had all of these situations going on around the country that were Black and White. It was like that. But this one particular here to me, wasn't just a Black and White issue. To me, there was a deeper situation going on and nobody really touched on it. I didn't understand why people wasn't touching on it. I was like, \"Come on, y'all, we talking about elected official here.\" No, he wasn't the victim in the church at the time when this man came in and killed the people. \n\nThat wasn't even the case. It was, we got to think strategically. We got to think strategically on how this plot went down. But no, I don't think the young people even are aware of what that was. Because they haven't been in the fight to know that side of things. They still dealing with superficial things. They still dealing with, I'm the same as you and you should treat me equally and things like that. I respect that. I truly, truly do. \n\nBecause I'm the same way. But I think the Emanuel Church situation was something more than it was a White man coming in, killing Black people inside a church. We had a few church burnings going on. It was like a lot of stuff that just blindsided people. When I sit here and talk about it, you can see I'm a little bit passionate about the Clementa situation. Because I knew Clementa Pinckney and spoke with him and talked with him many times. Talked with his wife and his daughter. My thing was, most people aren't realizing how serious it was. Because in conversation he would say things like, \"I think the governor was...\" What's her name? Oh, I can't remember her name. She was the governor of South Carolina. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=2917.0,3113.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nHaley. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=3113.0,3114.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nYes. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=3114.0,3114.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nNikki Haley. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=3114.0,3114.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nNikki Haley, yes. Her family lived in that area. Bamberg, South Carolina and stuff. Now you take a drive down in Bamberg, you'll be like, “What the, is going on here?” We talking about going back in the 1900s. It's buildings, all dilapidated. But my personal thing is, if you are in a political situation and you have that ability to drive business, why didn't you help build up that area? Why didn't you get better roads in there? Why didn't y'all just get stuff going on in that area, so these people could have a better self worth? So they can get funding, so they can actually live better so they can have better communities, better schools. Things like that would help, but she didn't do that. But he was one of the people who was pushing. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=3114.0,3174.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nGiovanni, you have a big, expansive view of all the problems, really. You've mentioned a lot of them. If people were going to hear 5 years from now, 10 years from now, they’re writing their books, they're writing their dissertations, they're doing their research and they're going to listen to you talk about this period. What is it that you want them to understand first and foremost about what it takes to change a community? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=3174.0,3227.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nOh, okay. Let me think for a second. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=3227.0,3232.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nTake your time. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=3232.0,3234.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nBecause what does it take for you to change a community? I think the easiest answer is to know your foundation. Know what that community is. Know who those community people are. We're not just talking about the ones who you can Google on the outside. We're talking about the ones that actually make the community grow and sustain. Know your foundation. What is the baseline of that community? What is its purpose? Every community to me, has its own purpose. \n\nI live on James Island. The community of Sol Legare has its purpose. Down Cut, they got they purpose. Grimball, got they purpose. Cross Cut, got they purpose. All these little pocket communities, they have their own purpose of survival. You got to know who and what is the foundation of that community. I can say that if you— I don't know, I don't really know. I just know that's my approach. Find out why. I grew up with house builders. The foundation got to be there. If it ain't no foundation, then I don't care if we got a tin roof or a shingle roof. I don't care if you got four bathrooms or one bathroom, that shit gon’ crack. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=3234.0,3338.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nDo you think there is a foundation in Charleston still that can be built on? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=3338.0,3344.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nI think there's a foundation in Charleston that can be built on. I really do think there's a foundation in Charleston and it can be built on. I really think that you just got to do a lot of shoveling of trash to get to it, but it's there. There's a lot of elders who are there, who are part of that foundation that's willing. You got to learn how to sit down with them and communicate with them on their level so that you can bring them on your level. I think that is a major portion of rebuilding or re-scathing this foundation. It's there, we just got to fill some of the cracks and get Ram Jack in there and lift up one side of the house. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=3344.0,3405.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nYou've been so eloquent about explaining the importance of seeing not the superficial. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=3405.0,3416.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nYes. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=3416.0,3418.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nDo you have any faith in, or not so much faith, but do you have any idea of where that kind of education is going to come from? Will our schools transform to help us to learn how to think critically? Will our churches take on the role? Where do you think that energy is going to come from to help us learn how to think more critically? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=3418.0,3456.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nI think that got to be outside. Because I truly think that the schools are tainted and I truly think that the churches are tainted. I think that even the political system is tainted. I don't think that they have, and we going to hope for change. They have to get some serious revitalization going on. But I think what's going to have to happen is, it's going to have to be some drastic outside organization that's going to have to come in and work with these pillars in order for them to invoke some kind of change. \n\nI grew up here in Charleston, South Carolina. As I said prior, I graduated here, the top part of my classes. I did not want to be here. When it was time to go, I was out the door. I came back here and married a young man from Charleston, South Carolina. When I got pregnant with my daughter, my goal was out the door. I was like, “I can't raise her in this environment because the schools suck. They don't teach you about identity culture. No nothing.” \n\nThe jobs suck. You have no future. You got to work four jobs just to live in the means. Just to even live here. Even if you coming off of homeland and stuff like that. The politics don't even recognize the people. I was out the door. My grandmother took sick and being that I was her last baby grandchild before the others. I was the last one that she actually raised. When my grandmother took sick and she had dementia, and she said, on one of her good days, on one of her good days. She said, \"Baby, you need to stay. Because I feel my children is going to sell the land.\" Now that is sad to me. Because I'm a grandchild. I wasn't her child. I was her grandchild. I was one of the baby grandchildren. For me, my grandmother saw something in me that made me sit here and say, okay, let's just sit back and re-analyze that. Now my daughter goes to school here. She's in ninth grade at the school of arts. \n\nI was active in moving my daughter around to the schools to make sure that she had a better education. But a lot of parents aren't in the position that I was in. A lot of parents have to work or they have to do this. The education system sucks. I said this a long time ago that they just now talking about recognizing the Gullah language and mannerisms in children now. But the kids are already brainwashed to say, “Oh no they don't even want to accept it.” Because their mind is already screwed to be like, they going to look at me a little bit different. They going to treat me different. Because that stuff has already been passed down and that's been passed down inside the home. Because that's just where the nastiness— we got to fix all of that. It's a lot of stuff to be fixed on this plate. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=3456.0,3710.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWhich is why you work so hard within that whole cultural realm- ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=3710.0,3715.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nYeah. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=3715.0,3716.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\n— of identity and what culture really can do. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=3716.0,3722.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nYeah. When you understand who you are, then I think you have a little bit more value and then you will willingly want to accept. I remember when a friend of mine, she's a math teacher, Garrett Math and Science. I was like, what? We got Garrett as a math and science? But to me, it's not like a math and science school. I think they just threw the name, math and science magnet on there and that's it. She's a math teacher. I went in there to talk about culture in the math class, because culture has all aspects. \n\nMath, science, history, it has all aspects. I'm in the classroom with her and she has about 20 kids in there. There's two White kids in this class. All right. There's two White kids in this class. Fifteen of these kids is Hispanic and the other four are Black kids, in the class. I'm sitting here like, do you realize that you have to really identify with these kids on a level because they all learn differently? When I went in there, of course my thing was to teach culture. \n\nI'm including Hispanic culture inside my lecture. I went to talk, as I'm speaking to the Black kids about Gullah language, I said, \"Y'all speak another language when you go home.\" I said, \"So when you look at your Hispanic friends and they speak in another language and you talking trash about how they need to learn how to speak English, guess what? You don't even speak English. Because I'm going to say a couple of terms that you probably say at home, and I can guarantee you those terms come out of a different language.\" \n\nI did. They stepped back and they was in shock. But we talking about this is a middle school. Those kids are already been brainwashed all the way through elementary school. I work with Dr. Perry on her coming in to educate the school system on Gullah culture and the language and things like that. I think that the school system don't really care. They just be like, \"Oh okay, we’ll bring you in. You can have a four hour program so we can educate and inform the teachers.\" \n\nBut we're talking about most of these teachers are coming out of the Midwest. They have no idea what they're dealing with. They just thinking they got Black kids that just don't know how to learn. That's really not the truth. When I was in school, I think in 1993, or is it ’92? That's when they started the ESL program, which is English is a second language program. I think that is a key program when it comes down to kids that are born and raised here. \n\nEspecially who live in those rural areas, like in Ravenel and Edisto and Deep Johns Island, who go to school and they are raised with their parents who've been on that island forever and they have those languages. Then you got these teachers coming in and they saying, \"That's not how you conjugate a sentence.\" I speak two, three languages outside of English. Not including Gullah. Let me tell you, you speaking German, your subject over here, your verb is here in Spanish. It's changed around. Those things are very important for you to learn in order for you to help change the narrative for the kids. If you're trying to create the kids to be in a position where they can understand and they can have their own identity so they can know, okay, well we speaking English now, so we got to flip the script. Okay. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=3722.0,4009.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWe're going to wrap it up now, Giovanni. But I'm going to just ask you very simply, do you feel more positive about the future by acknowledging what you've just been saying? Do you feel that once we really understand how important this cultural transformation is? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=4009.0,4041.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nOh, definitely. Shit, I support my people, man. I can't turn my back on my people at all. Look, we built pyramids. I'm telling you, we can do anything. It's just like the human body. It can be replenished if you put the right nutrients in it, it can rebuild itself. If we give the people the right tools, they can do it. I didn't mention Muhiyidin's name, but we did a lot of spiritual stuff together. This is one of the big things. \n\nI told Muhiyidin, when he was going into Black Lives Matter, because nobody wanted to hear Muhiyidin talk about Black Lives Matter. They really didn't. Oh, he's stirring the pot. He's stirring the pot. My whole thing with Muhiyidin was, you have to be spiritually attuned with yourself in order for you to actually go to the next level and not worry about these people. There was many times that we walked on the back of the dock and gone in the woods and sat down at the water. \n\nJust me and him having these conversations which is why it was important that I did the spiritual funeral for him after his death. It was important that happened because we had gotten to another point. I think in order for the people to get to that point where we are talking about, is it a positive light for them in the future? Yes. They just got to know who they are. Like I say, if you put all the nutrients on the table, ain't no telling where they gone go at after that. But I can't doubt them. I really can't doubt. I can't doubt them. I don't care how much trials and tribulations, I really can't. I'm like, “Hell yeah, we been hung. Yeah. They burn our churches down.” ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=4041.0,4174.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nBut we still here. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=4174.0,4174.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nWe still here. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=4174.0,4175.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nThank you so much. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=4175.0,4176.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nYou're welcome. Thank you. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=4176.0,4177.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWe love that. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=4177.0,4178.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nThank you. That was definitely- ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=4178.0,4180.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nWonderful. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=4180.0,4181.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nYeah. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=4181.0,4181.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MILLICENT BROWN\n\nThank you. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=4181.0,4182.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378/transcript/84160/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"GIOVANNI RICHARDSON\n\nI appreciate it. \n\n  ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3440/collection_resources/160066/file/291378#t=4182.0,4183.274"}]}]}]}