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After graduating from Georgetown University in 1976, Hilton took a job at the World Bank and worked there for two years focused on industrial projects. Eventually, he and his family moved to Charleston, South Carolina where he began to work in real estate development and management. Through his philanthropic efforts, Hilton has helped forge important partnerships with the EastWest Institute, private donors, and the College of Charleston. Hilton outlines some of these activities in this interview, and explains why he believes they are important to the future of higher education and international relations. As Hilton explains, the founder of EWI, John Mroz, was also essential in conceptualizing and founding the School of Languages, Cultures, and World Affairs (LCWA) at the College of Charleston. \u003c/p\u003e (abstract)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Contributing Institution"]},"value":{"en":["College of Charleston Libraries"]}},{"label":{"en":["Media Type"]},"value":{"en":["Oral History"]}},{"label":{"en":["Subject - Personal or Corporate"]},"value":{"en":["Mroz, John Edwin","College of Charleston. School of Languages, Cultures, and World Affairs"]}},{"label":{"en":["Subject - Topical"]},"value":{"en":["Cultural diplomacy"]}},{"label":{"en":["Subject - Geographic"]},"value":{"en":["Washington (D.C.)","Russia","China"]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["English (primary)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Type IMT"]},"value":{"en":["video/mp4"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eCopyright © College of Charleston\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Date Digital"]},"value":{"en":["2022-03-08"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eIn this interview, Hilton Charles Smith Jr. recalls his initial engagement with the EastWest Institute and why he and his family were drawn to the organization and its commitment to Track II diplomacy. Hilton grew up in Washington D.C. and his family had many personal and business connections in the Middle East. He had an early interest in international relations. After graduating from Georgetown University in 1976, Hilton took a job at the World Bank and worked there for two years focused on industrial projects. Eventually, he and his family moved to Charleston, South Carolina where he began to work in real estate development and management. Through his philanthropic efforts, Hilton has helped forge important partnerships with the EastWest Institute, private donors, and the College of Charleston. Hilton outlines some of these activities in this interview, and explains why he believes they are important to the future of higher education and international relations. As Hilton explains, the founder of EWI, John Mroz, was also essential in conceptualizing and founding the School of Languages, Cultures, and World Affairs (LCWA) at the College of Charleston.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eCopyright \u0026copy; College of Charleston\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Lowcountry Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Lowcountry Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/212/original/LOHI_aviarybanner2.jpg?1741032082","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/154/484/small/SmithHiltonFeb2022.m4v_1646859236.jpg?1646841241","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - Smith_Hilton_Feb2022.m4v"]},"duration":2263.872,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/154/484/small/SmithHiltonFeb2022.m4v_1646859236.jpg?1646841241","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cofc.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/154/484/original/Smith_Hilton_Feb2022.m4v?1646841233","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":2263.872,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Transcript of Interview with Hilton Charles Smith Jr., February 2022 [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nOkay, thanks for being here. My name is Blake Scott. The date is February 21st, 2022 and the name of this project is the EWI Society Oral History project. Hilton, thanks for being here today. For the record, could you state your full name, date of birth, and place of birth?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=0.0,16.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nHilton Charles Smith Jr., February 18th, 1954, and I was born in Washington, DC.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=16.0,25.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nThanks for that. Happy birthday, a few days ago.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=25.0,28.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nYeah. Thanks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=28.0,29.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nYeah, and to start thinking about change over time, all these years interested in these issues, could you tell us a little bit about how you first got involved or thinking about international relations? Were their experiences growing up, in college, that stand out, that focused your commitments in this field?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=29.0,48.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nMy father was a salesman for a company called Parsons Engineering and he did a lot of Middle Eastern projects, including his biggest deal was clearing the Suez Canal in 1958. He got to be pretty close to Nasser, President Nasser at the time and his family. We had a very strong Middle Eastern influence in our home growing up. My father's friends, mother and father's friends, a lot of them were Arabs and so, that was always a part. Then, my sister married a Jordanian who was a diplomat for the Jordanian government/family. He was a Royal family member. So, we've had a lot of Arabs and Middle Eastern insights in our lives as I was growing up.\n\nThen, when I went to college, I went to Georgetown University and I felt that I wanted to continue doing international activities. I was an international finance major and I worked at the World Bank for two years. A year before, while I was a senior, and then a few years afterwards, I was working at the World Bank in industrial projects in Europe, Middle East, and North Africa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=48.0,140.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nOkay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=140.0,140.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nI had some interest in the Middle East and international activities, but that was taken over by my interest in real estate for a lot of my time after I got out of college.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=140.0,154.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nTo help us just understand the timeline, how did you start getting involved with international affairs, international issues here at the College of Charleston?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=154.0,162.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nI was approached by the president of the college back in the late '90s to work with the college, to see if we could start a school for international studies, which at the time I was on the board of the EastWest Institute and John Mroz was my friend. When the school and I got our plans together and the funding arranged, John came here to the college both right before the school was announced and we had a East-West Institute board meeting here in May of 2005. Then, we announced the school in February, March of 2006, so he was here for both of those activities. In the beginning of the school, [he] was on our advisory board and helped us with some of the emphasis and directions, areas we should be focused on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=162.0,233.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nInteresting. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=233.0,234.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nIt was a really great touch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=234.0,237.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nYour relationship with the EastWest Institute really began before your relationship with the College of Charleston?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=237.0,243.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nIt did. Yes. I was on the board of the EastWest Institute. I started in the late '90s and I started my role here. At the college, I was on the foundation board. I think it started in 2004 or five, something like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=243.0,262.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nOkay, so maybe we can take a step back to EWI. How did you first get involved or interested in EWI's activities?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=262.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nMy father-in-law was a New Yorker and he and John Mroz had been acquainted, and both my father-in-law and I were on a charitable trust that was a philanthropic grantor. We give away money. We gave away money, so through that trust and my father-in-law, we were supporters of EastWest Institute. My father-in-law was actually a founding director of the institute and became very connected with it. The institute was a small family program, even though it was a big outfit, it was very personalized and we became very close to John.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=270.0,322.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nFor many folks, they're not going to understand exactly what the EWI is about. What drew you all to EWI? What was their mission that was really appealing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=322.0,331.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nWell, the EastWest Institute's purpose is to create world peace, to generate the opportunity for people that have different opinions, to find different approaches to solving their differences. Diplomacy is the general term of what you do when you're a government not agreeing with another one, hopefully. We did what was known as track two diplomacy, which is where people like me fit into it. \n\nTrack one is government to government, track two is people to people, and then there's a track one and a half, which is this hybrid. It was an opportunity to meet people from all over the world that we didn't agree with and become able to understand their fears.\n\nI went to a meeting in France in the Versailles, whatever you call that, the palace, it was amazing, a beautiful room. I was there with people from all over the world and it was focused on the Iranians. The question was, why does Iran feel they need a nuclear weapon? This was back in early 2000 and we beat around the room, but it quickly became apparent because they didn't have any other big brother they could count on. That was why they wanted a nuclear weapon. They didn't have the United States of America or another nuclear power that they could count on. \n\nThen, we brought in Iranians and we had conversations with all kinds of Iranians that... I was talking about my children and my wife and what it's like to be married for 30 years at that point. It was just an opportunity to really get to realize how simple we all are, how we all have so many common threads that should allow us to respect and become able to trust. Trust is a huge part of the element of EWI success. Strategic trust is the hardest to achieve, but just general trust is tough. \n\nThey would bring people like me in and I'd just meet them. It was really exciting because I had many opportunities. In '99 or '98, I went to Russia right after they defaulted on their debt. Sitting in a small room, maybe three or four times the size of this and on one side was about 10 Russians that were all 30-35 and brilliant people. I was sitting at a small table, my side and on my right was a guy named John Whitehead, the assistant Secretary of Treasury of the United States of America.\n\nWhitehead looked at them after all this dialogue and he said, \"Damn it, don't you understand, if you don't pay me back, I'm not going to lend you anymore money.\" It was an amazing moment I'll never forget. Then, we all went and watched hockey together. Dialogues of that nature is why I really found EWI to be a great place and they did amazing things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=331.0,550.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nIt seems your relationship with EWI is really in the aftermath of the Cold War, the era of globalization, the possibility of free trade or democracy spreading around the world. But could you tell us a little bit more about your understanding of how EWI started? When did they begin? They didn't start in the '90s, did they?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=550.0,571.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\n'80s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=571.0,572.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nThe '80s. Okay, what was their original mission in the '80s?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=572.0,575.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nTheir original mission in the '80s was… John met a fellow named Ira Wallach who said to him, \"I want you to tell me what you will do if I give you two million.\" John worked on it and he came back and he said, \"I'm going to spread democracy and I'm going to take down the wall.\" That's what happened.\n\nHe did that in '89. I mean, he was a part of that. EastWest Institute that was their major, major focus and that happened in... I was there in '89 when we celebrated all the accomplishments of getting the wall down and all the leaders were there. We were in an amazing ceremony, but John, he always had 100 things he wanted to do, way down the line.\n\nWe'd sit in board meetings and he would spend the first hour just speaking about the world. It would be fascinating that he would have all that in his mind and he would always be looking at the board, which I was sitting on and saying, \"I know we're stretched. We don't have enough money to do what we're doing, but we've got to also do these things.\" We'd always be, \"No, you can't do it all. You can't do it all,\" but there was so much to be done. It was an interesting opportunity, so I'm glad I had that time with great, great co-members, co-board members, amazing people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=575.0,673.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nThat's a fascinating transition from the '80s to the '90s and connecting civil society, business leaders, political leaders. It feels like it's important for us to understand more about John Mroz. So, maybe you could tell us a little bit about, what's his background? How did John get involved in these issues?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=673.0,693.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nJohn, he was a pretty humble man, who wanted to be… his goal was to be a professor. He wanted to be a teacher in college and teach this stuff, but he ran into opportunities. When he was writing his PhD, I forget which school it was, but he was writing a PhD on international peace and the challenges that it was facing across the world. He was on an airplane sitting next to somebody who worked for this major journalist who took the paper and published it and it was incredibly popular. The book was out for like 15 years international, whatever it was by John Mroz.\n\nIt in a sense blew his whole awareness, who he was, his notoriety went very strong. John had lots of opportunities to not be a school teacher, but to go out and inspire people and raise money for good causes that he would achieve, he would go after. EastWest Institute was an organization that didn't take any money from states or nations. \n\nWe had some countries that would lend us experts, their expert on various topics. We would almost always have three or four, but our pool base of donors was very carefully monitored. John was one of the three most renowned, independent, trusted people in the world for negotiations. He was an amazing fellow to have as a friend. Yeah. He really was quite a man, but I don't know as much about him as a lot of the people you're going to talk to. My touch was a few things that I've mentioned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=693.0,827.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nIn the late '90s, you mentioned that you were in Russia. Were there other events or activities that you engaged with EWI, travels or?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=827.0,837.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nYes. I mean, I went to a lot of places. China was an incredible experience. I was there in the 2006 or seven, and we went with a lady who was 104 years old, Catherine Davis. The Chinese have great respect for their elders, so this whole thing, Mroz knew… the School of Languages, Cultures, and World Affairs here at the college that we were part of founding that John was part of, those three things, that's what it takes to have someone over someplace else be able to appreciate and respect one another. You have to know those things.\n\nWe went to China with Catherine Davis who also happened to be a very wealthy, very wealthy woman. We went to Mao's home. We went to all these very appropriate places and were filmed as an institute with about 50 or 60 of us. It was a wonderful experience.\n\nOne night, I was at dinner sitting next to Catherine Davis at a table that was huge. I mean, they have big dinner parties in China, thousands of people. We were sitting and talking and across the room was this gentleman that just looked so ferocious. He just really didn't look friendly at all. He was the mayor of Shanghai, but I found out that he had two sons as I do. So, in the middle of the thing went over and I introduced myself and we became very friendly and had a nice talk. \n\nThe whole persona and the approach to meetings, it just was very interesting to see the culture and the way they feel they need to portray themselves at times.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=837.0,964.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott \n\nThe EWI is really about cultural diplomacy?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=964.0,967.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nIt's about understanding who you're talking to, so you might speak their language, you understand about where they came from, their families, what happened in their homes, their community and then to appreciate and understand their culture. All of that allows us to cause the person we're talking to become more comfortable, to realize that I'm not just here, because I want to get your money or this isn't a transaction, this is real. \n\nAmericans are good people. We love the world. We don't want to have war. We don't want to take your home. How can we work this out? We try to convey the importance of being a good American to all of our students in our programs when they go over to whatever country they're going to, we let them know that they're ambassadors for our country, for our school, for who we are. \n\nThose are things that I've really learned, helped me when I am in any situation. Getting the person I'm communicating with, transacting with to sense that I care.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=967.0,1049.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nAbsolutely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1049.0,1050.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nThat's what John was sincere about. Oh my gosh, he would just do all kinds of different things to accommodate people's needs or situations that would arise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1050.0,1065.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nThere's a big focus on Russia, China at the end of the Cold War. Are there other key events or countries or regions that the institute was focused on?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1065.0,1077.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nWell, when the wall came down, a big question was, what are we going to do? John was geopolitical. I mean, he was looking at things all over the world. I went on several trips to the Middle East, back to Russia a few times. We had a gentleman that... Don Kendall was the founder of PepsiCo and he took PepsiCo to Russia.\n\nSo, the first time I was in Russia, all the signs had pictures of Don Kendall and PepsiCo and Gorbachev. It was a riot, but advertising Pepsi, but those are the kinds of people who were part of this organization. They were major players, not like me. Most people were just significant, really accomplished individuals that had done a lot of things in the world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1077.0,1137.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nMany thoughts here, but let's bring it back to the college and see how we can connect the two. Can you walk us through what you all were thinking and how were you tying in EWI with the college's mission? What were those initial conversations like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1137.0,1151.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nWell, when the School of Languages, Cultures, and World Affairs was created, one of its goals was to globalize the College of Charleston's campus. We're in a port city. We've been in international city. We've been an international community from the beginning, but the college had never really been able to get its international school going. So, with our help, we were able to create this with John Mroz's touch.\n\nAfter the school was founded, students would have internships, from our school would have internships at EWI. John and his successors, presidents, there were two presidents of the institute after John died about eight years ago and they came down, they met our students, so we had that type of connectivity. The EWI family, Karen Mroz and I and other EWI members have continued to be friendly and have a relationship.\n\nThe school has continued to have EastWest engagement to some extent, but the institute decided after eight years, six years of living without John, that it was best to close the institute. The board got together and they were trying to decide what to do with the institute, its legacy. Fortunately, Karen Mroz reached out to me and I supported the idea. I asked Dr. Hsu, Andrew Hsu, if he thought it was a good idea and he was very excited about the opportunity. \n\nThen, Tim Johnson, the dean and I, and others around the college, your school, your philanthropic and Jenny Fowler and Chris Tobin, the provost, we all worked together and presented to the institute's board. They were looking at some major institutions, Fletcher School of government, Georgetown, Stanford. We had very serious competition, but the impact of John's engagement here and the culture that we have emphasized to our students and the success of the school caused their board to decide this was the place to be. \n\nSo, that meant that all of their historical records, their approach to diplomacy, track two dialogue, they gave that and significant monies to the College of Charleston so that there would be funds to apply and make this happen even more so at our school. This has been a tremendous asset to the college and to the School of Language, Cultures and World Affairs.\n\nThe hardest thing in Charleston, South Carolina, for us to have in the school was World Affairs. We were getting Culture down, because we have a wonderful School of Languages. We teach 13 different languages. We've added Culture to that part of it, to the languages, which has enriched the program. It's helped our language schools do better, but the World Affairs was a challenge for us and that connectivity to people that are engaged internationally.\n\nEastWest Institute has put that on like the Eveready bunny, it's really tuned up our exposure, raised the bar of our capacity and been very, very good for the college.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1151.0,1413.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nIn this next phase of EWI's life, its history, what do you think are the main goals as it transitions to a life and an archive, a life at a university?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1413.0,1426.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nWell, what I hope and what I expect is that, it's going to be a living body because we have so many people that are young and old that want to continue to connect through this EastWest's Institute family. We are at LCWA having opportunities for people to come and be visiting professors, be engaged with our programs to help us even more so than we can do ourselves, teach diplomacy to our students.\n\nDiplomacy is resilience and strength and all kinds of things. You can make and work through helping people understand what you're about and getting your point across, and getting others to buy-in on what you feel is the right way to go. I think it will continue to be very exciting and we've got great professors, we've got great leadership. We also have several of the EastWest Institute board members on the advisory board for our School of Language, Cultures, and World Affairs. They're also involved in the John Edwin Mroz Leadership Institute.\n\nIn March, we've got our initial convening, which has got world leading leadership people, all kinds of leaders. They're coming to the College of Charleston because of John Mroz and the institute, that's why they're coming here. So, this is going to be a very strong, motivating element to the college in our school to have the essence of the institute as a part of us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1426.0,1544.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nThe hub of international diplomacy in the South East?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1544.0,1549.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nThis is going to be a really central spot. I think we will grow and we've been very fortunate with support and people that we didn't know wanting to help, so it's great for the college.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1549.0,1563.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nI think we've covered a lot of issues. I'd like to toss it to you. Do you have other questions or themes that you feel like we really should still touch on? I also have some follow-up questions, but I'd like to know what you think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1563.0,1578.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nWell, I think you're doing great. I think you're doing great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1578.0,1582.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nWell, so are you, but I just wanted to know if there was particular questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1582.0,1586.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nNo. I mean, I could sit here all day and brag about LCWA or I could brag about EWI.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1586.0,1594.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nWell, let's do some bragging then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1594.0,1596.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nOkay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1596.0,1597.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nLet's start with EWI. If you could summarize, what do you think one of their main contributions has been to diplomacy, EWI? It could be an event or an approach.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1597.0,1615.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nWell, it's the people it brings together, that's what I've seen. I've seen great, amazing places. Where they signed the World War II treaty, I was there at that spot in Germany and we had people with all kinds of different politics and different countries. We were there and we had a beautiful evening and we all sat and talked and really enjoyed one another.\n\nThen, I think sometimes the hardest thing is to get people to come into the room and they know how to do that. I've learned that by the biggest way is because of family. That's a huge opportunity at the institute. My family was always welcomed and I've done that in many boards that I've become involved with since. It's the basis of people, a lot of people. Not everybody has family, not everyone appreciates it, but most of us do, no matter who it might be with, it's family. So, that's an incredible piece of it and they made me feel engaged and gave me an opportunity to do something. I was appreciative of all that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1615.0,1705.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nTo humanize the big abstract ideas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1705.0,1708.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nYeah, because you can really talk to people about internationalism. When I was in Georgetown, I took International Law for about three months and then I had to stop, it was so confusing. Now, John put it into real simple perspective and I could see it work. It was neat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1708.0,1728.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nWell, here's to follow-up on that and the opposite of the contribution or their greatest achievement. What about the challenges, what challenges did EWI face?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1728.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nResources. John always had something else that he needed to do. He was driving the boat. Whatever we could accomplish, he always had more that he wanted to do. There was always something else to be done, so it was hard to delegate resources between some people getting water and some people not, or this and that. It was hard to see basic requirements in life being controlled so much by resources and who has the resources, that was hard for me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1740.0,1782.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nEspecially EWI being a non-governmental organization, so I imagine resources are always dependent on year to year…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1782.0,1791.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nPhilanthropic giving and we had a few that were multi-years, but most of our giving was because we're doing something special right then and there and we're able to raise funds from that and that was what kept us going. I sat in rooms where five to $10 million was raised just around the table for incredible causes, amazing people. A guy named George Russell, Whitney MacMillan. Oh my God. I mean, Don Kendall, millions of dollars.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1791.0,1834.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nRemind me of this, but at the end, we should ask who else should we talk to, but before we do that, can we come back to LCWA and do the same sort of questions, which is, what do you think LWCA's ongoing or greatest contribution is to whether it's the college or the city?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1834.0,1854.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nWell, LCWA is a school that exposes our students to the world, to the globe. To me, that's infinite, I mean, that's going to keep going forever. Our school is helping them do it better and better because the values, the importance of cultures, languages, world affairs is emphasized in how we teach what we teach. It's emphasized in our mentoring, our mentors, we do mentoring, we do independent study, we do all the things we do. Anybody that's talking to me is hearing that and I hear it all the time now, it's good.\n\nIt's enriching. As I think I said earlier, our School of Languages we have more students signing up for languages at the college, which is not what everybody else is experiencing. We have a program here at the international studies… in our international scholars program, which is 10 students that could go to any school, they could do almost anything. I've watched these young people, my gosh, they're amazing. They do want to do great things and it's the kids, the kids have this in them.\n\nI had dinner with five candidates for international scholars a few weeks ago. Two of them wanted to save the world by making sure there was enough food and water. Two of them wanted to save the world because of the environmental threats they're concerned about with the flooding. The third one wanted to help migration and help people survive that. When I went to college at Georgetown University in 1972, I wanted to make money internationally. That's what I wanted to do. I didn't even think about these things. We got different people here than we used to have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1854.0,1987.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nYou're obviously thinking about it now or have been thinking about it since the '90s, at least and helping this next generation achieve this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1987.0,1996.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nIt's exciting to see this. I really have not been the best at all. What helped me most of this was being involved with the college and being involved with young people and seeing what we hadn't done right. What we needed to do more of, no more kicking the can, if you can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=1996.0,2014.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nIt seems that's what the college can do is bridge these, I don't want to say divides, but create a bridge for connections between the community, between the business community, political issues, and also students.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=2014.0,2027.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nAndrew Hsu wrote a beautiful note to the paper today I read about civility. Yes, we have great opportunities and I think that's what we should do here. Our convening in March is open to the public. We're hoping a lot of local Charlestonians will participate and hear what it means to be a global leader. Watch our students speak about what they feel is important. It's amazing to hear what our kids think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=2027.0,2062.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nHow about a final note to the students as someone who's been involved in philanthropic activities, business activities, so much international travel, what advice would you offer them as they're going through college and thinking about international issues or relations? What would you want them to be thinking about?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=2062.0,2084.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nWell, I think study abroad is something that we all look at with different eyes. The college has, almost half of our student body have a study abroad experience, which is extremely high. But what that experience is, is a matter of the programming, a matter of what you're going after. It's one thing to go to Paris for a month or May away and it's another thing to go to Cairo, Egypt and spend a semester at the American University of Cairo. \n\nI think that we should be focusing on study abroads that are different, that allow us to be immersed into a really different culture. Something that, not only eat different food, but people just think differently. The greater, I think, the opportunity to see the differences in people and learn about them and get to be comfortable with that, the more benefit you'll get. I would encourage that. That would be one thing I would encourage our young people…\n\nAnd to study, take a language, make it be a language you can keep with, keep using. Not like me, not like most of what my generation did and to be engaged in the world, travel. It's a wonderful thing to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=2084.0,2180.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nIt feels like EWI can help them on that journey.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=2180.0,2184.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nIt will. It will with a good attitude and a good appreciation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=2184.0,2191.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nWell, thanks for all that. Maybe just as a final question, are there other folks you would like to put on the record that we should speak to?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=2191.0,2199.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nWell, I've got to believe Karen Mroz is on your record, on your list. There is a fellow who's coming to the convening, George Scheers, S-C-H-E-E-R-S. I don't know about Don Kendall, if he's still alive. George Russell is not able to be interviewed. Whitney MacMillan, God, he was an amazing fellow. He ran Cargill Industries, dynamic people. I'm trying to think of a couple others, but...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=2199.0,2238.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nNo, we can add it as an addendum at the end. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=2238.0,2241.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nBut this is a great thing. We're off this thing now, right? This is turned off?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=2241.0,2245.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blake Scott\n\nWhen you want it to be off?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=2245.0,2247.0"},{"id":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484/transcript/35912/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilton Charles Smith Jr.\n\nI mean, I'm just speaking about other things. I think this is a great process for as many of our members or family people, or board members that we can… and this is a comfortable environment. Is this where you are going to do all the interviews?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lcdl.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1894/collection_resources/69752/file/154484#t=2247.0,2263.872"}]}]}]}